[BartSimpson]

Junk Science Unravels

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Climate Change: The scientist who claimed that global warming threatens polar bears is under investigation. There's a hole in Earth's greenhouse. A cooler era lies ahead. That hiss is the hot air coming out of alarmists' balloon.

The global warming fraud is coming apart faster than the alarmists can repackage and rebrand their fairy tale. Their elaborately constructed yarn can't hold together much longer. There are just too many loose ends:

• Charles Monnett, the scientist who predicted that polar bears would drown from a lack of sea ice, "is being investigated for scientific misconduct, possibly over the veracity" of the article in which he makes that claim, the Associated Press reported Thursday. Monnett, a federal wildlife biologist with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement, has been placed on leave pending the probe's outcome.

After Monnett claimed that the deaths of four drowned polar bears foretold of an increase in deaths "in the future if the observed trend of regression of pack ice and/or longer open water periods continues," polar bears became an environmentalist icon. Al Gore, for instance, resorted to emotion-evoking polar bear images in his climate change movie "An Inconvenient Truth." The New York Times Dot Earth blogger called it "a wrenching scene."

So wrenching was it that the alarmist machine has continued to use the animals to frighten the public into believing the global warming hysteria. And it didn't need to do much to turn public opinion in its favor. Research done at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute has found that "when just 10% of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society."

The Environmental Protection Agency placed polar bears on the endangered list in 2008, four years after Monnett's observation and two years after Gore's movie filled audiences' heads with nonsense. But the claim that man-made global warming is a threat to polar bears has been debunked and the scientist who ginned up the narrative is now under scrutiny.

• NASA data show that between 2000 and 2011 our atmosphere didn't trap as much heat as had been previously thought.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Roy Spencer, a research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville who co-wrote a new paper explaining the findings, said this week.

"Satellites show energy being lost while climate models show energy still being gained," said Spencer.

In other words, the greenhouse effect, key to the alarmists' claims that man's carbon dioxide emissions are forcing the planet temperatures to dangerous highs, is weak.

• Astronomers at the U.S. National Solar Observatory believe that Earth could be moving into a cooling period due to an unexpected coming break in the sunspot cycle. Research at the Air Force Research Laboratory confirms the sunspot observation.

With solar activity in "hibernation," it's possible we could have another era like the Maunder Minimum. During this period, from 1645 to 1715, sunspots were uncommon and temperatures fell. Rivers that were normally free of ice froze, according to NASA, and snow remained year round at latitudes in which that isn't generally the case.

Scientists aren't predicting that we're moving into a another Little Ice Age due to a replay of the Maunder Minimum. But some are warning that colder temperatures are ahead. There is research which shows that solar activity has a much stronger effect on climate than man's CO2 emissions.

None of this means we've heard the last of the global warming alarmists. They won't easily abandon their campaign to manage everyone else's affairs in the name of the environment.

They don't have much time left, though. Reality keeps poking big holes in their story.

[desertdude]

Never gave a shit about climate change in the first place. I grew up hearing the Earth was freezing, then there was hole in the Ozone layer, now we're overheating and melting, wonder whats next ?

A computer bug that can literally crash every computer on the planet and we'll be sent back to the stone age ! Oh wait thats already been done.

[Curtman]

BartSimpson wrote:

Scientists aren't predicting that we're moving into a another Little Ice Age due to a replay of the Maunder Minimum. But some are warning that colder temperatures are ahead. There is research which shows that solar activity has a much stronger effect on climate than man's CO2 emissions

This was written by an idiot. Solar activity is the source of heat. CO2 traps the heat in.

[Zipperfish]

NSIDC Sea Ice Index

It stands to reason that less sea ice equals more swimming for the polar bears. Here's another recent study.

Polar bear swam 9 days in search of sea ice, study says

[ShepherdsDog]

as salt water decreases in salinity it will freeze that much easier...sort of self correcting isn't it?

[SprCForr]

desertdude wrote:

Never gave a shit about climate change in the first place. I grew up hearing the Earth was freezing, then there was hole in the Ozone layer, now we're overheating and melting, wonder whats next ?

A computer bug that can literally crash every computer on the planet and we'll be sent back to the stone age ! Oh wait thats already been done.

Heard the one about a calendar that stops so the world is going to end?

[PluggyRug]

Zipperfish wrote:

NSIDC Sea Ice Index

It stands to reason that less sea ice equals more swimming for the polar bears. Here's another recent study.

Polar bear swam 9 days in search of sea ice, study says

So whats happening in the Souther hemisphere?

[raydan]

SprCForr wrote:

desertdude wrote:

Never gave a shit about climate change in the first place. I grew up hearing the Earth was freezing, then there was hole in the Ozone layer, now we're overheating and melting, wonder whats next ?

A computer bug that can literally crash every computer on the planet and we'll be sent back to the stone age ! Oh wait thats already been done.

Heard the one about a calendar that stops so the world is going to end?

I get one like that every year... and every year, I think the world will end December 31th.

[ShepherdsDog]

No...it ends every Monday Morning and then we all go to hell.

[Zipperfish]

PluggyRug wrote:

So whats happening in the Souther hemisphere?

The southern hemisphere is not warming at the same rate as the northern hemisphere. The Antarctic itself has cooled.

The point I was trying to make here is that is the sea ice is diminishing in the Arctic, then it kind of makes sense that polar bears would have to swim more.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

as salt water decreases in salinity it will freeze that much easier...sort of self correcting isn't it?

Negative feedback, as its known in process control circles. POsitive feedback is where change become self-amplifying leading to run-away doomsday scenarios. I think a lot of alarmists fail to credit the ecosystem and its ability to resiliently maintain its equilibrium. Climate change will still be a big challenge for my kids, but I don't see it as an extinction event for humans.

[bootlegga]

Zipperfish wrote:

PluggyRug wrote:

So whats happening in the Souther hemisphere?

The southern hemisphere is not warming at the same rate as the northern hemisphere. The Antarctic itself has cooled.

The point I was trying to make here is that is the sea ice is diminishing in the Arctic, then it kind of makes sense that polar bears would have to swim more.

Which when you think about it, makes total sense.

Most of the Earth's landmass is in the Northern Hemisphere, as are most of the industrialized nations on Earth. So it stands to reason that our hemisphere should be warming faster than the less developed south with less landmass.

[Zipperfish]

bootlegga wrote:

Zipperfish wrote:

PluggyRug wrote:

So whats happening in the Souther hemisphere?

The southern hemisphere is not warming at the same rate as the northern hemisphere. The Antarctic itself has cooled.

The point I was trying to make here is that is the sea ice is diminishing in the Arctic, then it kind of makes sense that polar bears would have to swim more.

Which when you think about it, makes total sense.

Most of the Earth's landmass is in the Northern Hemisphere, as are most of the industrialized nations on Earth. So it stands to reason that our hemisphere should be warming faster than the less developed south with less landmass.

I don't think the industrialization aspect has much to do with it. The CO2 concentration is pretty uniform throughout the atmosphere.

[BartSimpson]

Curtman wrote:

BartSimpson wrote:

Scientists aren't predicting that we're moving into a another Little Ice Age due to a replay of the Maunder Minimum. But some are warning that colder temperatures are ahead. There is research which shows that solar activity has a much stronger effect on climate than man's CO2 emissions

This was written by an idiot. Solar activity is the source of heat. CO2 traps the heat in.

No, the idiots are the people whose crackpot theories require CO2 to radiate more heat than it absorbs. The derisive term for this 'theory' is The Mystical Magical Molecule.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson wrote:

No, the idiots are the people whose crackpot theories require CO2 to radiate more heat than it absorbs. The derisive term for this 'theory' is The Mystical Magical Molecule.

It's quite easy for a molecule to radiate less or more heat than it absorbs. Heat is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum (infrared). So a molecule can, for example, abosrb quanta in the higher energy visible spectrum and then emit it in the lower energy infrared spectrum, thus radiating more heat than it absorbs. Thta's why black walls are warmer than white walls--the white reflects most of the incident solar radiation, whereas the black abosrbs it and reradiates it as heat. And mass-energy is conserved.

This is precisely what the surface of the Earth does--takes incoming shortwave radiation and "reflects" it back as longwave radiation. CO2 absorbs some wavelengths of infrared and reradiates it as infrared. The important aspect is that it reradiates it in a random direction which means that 50% of the heat that was previously heading up and out is now held close to earth--resulting in az warmer troposphere and a cooling stratosphere.

It is interesting (in the article you printed) that more heat is escaping to space than is predicted by models. If the climate is warmer, you'd expect more heat would be radiated to space, I guess. Have to look into that one further.