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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:53 am
 


http://www.sail-world.com/USA/North-Wes ... ght/113788

Looks like the Canadian Coasties are going to have to rescue a bunch of yacht owners from all that global warming going on that's melting all the Arctic ice.

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The North West Passage seems to be reversing its recent warming trend and is threatening to end the dreams of dozens of adventurous sailors. A scattering of yachts trying to transit the legendary Passage are caught by the ice, which has become blocked at both ends and the season may be ended early. Douglas Pohl tells the story:

The passage has become blocked with 5/10 concentrated drifting sea ice at both the eastern and at the western ends of Canada’s Arctic Archipelago. At least 22 yachts and other vessels are in the Arctic at the moment. Some who were less advanced have retreated and others have abandoned their vessels along the way. Still others are caught in the ice in an unfolding, unresolved drama.

The real question is if and when the Canadian Coast Guard decides to take early action to help the above yachts exit the Arctic before freeze-up or will they wait until it becomes an emergency rescue operation?

Here is the detailed position, as far as it can be established:
Prince Regent Inlet in position 73.7880535N, -89.2529297W became blocked on 27th August with 5/10 ice concentration with 7/10 ice pushing.

This effectively closes the 2013 Northwest Passage without Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker escorts for transit.

Currently there is a commercial cruise ship on a west to east passage which will reach Prince Regent Inlet in another day. It is unknown if there is a CCG icebreaker in the area to provide assistance since government ships do not provide Automatic Identification Service (AIS) to public AIS websites.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:13 am
 


Great. Now we get to spend more money rescuing Darwin Award runners up.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:31 am
 


Fresh water freezes a lot easier than salt water and if the salinity is decreasing, then this is to be expected.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:53 am
 


Fuck 'em

Let the ice crush the hull, then we can steal the cargo. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:59 am
 


Anyone have the last name Franklin up there? :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:09 am
 


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Fresh water freezes a lot easier than salt water and if the salinity is decreasing, then this is to be expected.


The ship Erebus was trapped in the ice of the Northwest Passage for several years, and is proabally still in the passage well preserved. That ships can pass through there at all is testament to warming conditions in the passage.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:27 am
 


They make it sound like this is unusual but it's happened every year since the media BS blitz of a disappearing Arctic began. There was just more incidents this year because of the early freeze is all.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:31 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
ShepherdsDog wrote:
Fresh water freezes a lot easier than salt water and if the salinity is decreasing, then this is to be expected.


The ship Erebus was trapped in the ice of the Northwest Passage for several years, and is proabally still in the passage well preserved. .



There's still the butchered legs of RN seaman sitting on the galley chopping block, ready to go into the cooker.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:35 am
 


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:36 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
ShepherdsDog wrote:
Fresh water freezes a lot easier than salt water and if the salinity is decreasing, then this is to be expected.


The ship Erebus was trapped in the ice of the Northwest Passage for several years, and is proabally still in the passage well preserved. That ships can pass through there at all is testament to warming conditions in the passage.


Then according to that logic global warming started back in 1906 when Amundson first sailed the passage.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:38 am
 


Then there was the RCMP schooner that passed through both east-west, and west-east in the 30s.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:40 am
 


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Then according to that logic global warming started back in 1906 when Amundson first sailed the passage.


Had to be a hell of a lot earlier then that.

The Chinese have maps that show passable water, north of North America, dating back to the 1400's and earlier, if their map lore is even partially accurate.

Granted, the more I look into global warming, the less I want to stop it. In the long run, if humanity survives the initial shock, we will have a much more 'human friendly' planet if temps do go up a couple degrees.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:43 am
 


How credible is that graph if ice records could not be trusted before satellites, Zip? Really we only have 30 years of ice records, so we don't know what is normal up there.

There is newspaper article evidence they were experiencing arctic melts similar to today's in the 30s.


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N_Fiddledog wrote:
How credible is that graph if ice records could not be trusted before satellites, Zip? Really we only have 30 years of ice records, so we don't know what is normal up there.


The data was properly adjusted, no doubt. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:51 am
 


To be fair the graph does use the word "model", which is just a Prog word meaning bullshit.


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