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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:08 pm
 


http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclu ... mate-data/

Full title: Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data

Link to the referenced study: https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com ... 062717.pdf

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A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published [global average surface temperature (GAST)] data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.

Climate scientists often apply adjustments to surface temperature thermometers to account for “biases” in the data. The new study doesn’t question the adjustments themselves but notes nearly all of them increase the warming trend.


Basically, “cyclical pattern in the earlier reported data has very nearly been ‘adjusted’ out” of temperature readings taken from weather stations, buoys, ships and other sources.

In fact, almost all the surface temperature warming adjustments cool past temperatures and warm more current records, increasing the warming trend, according to the study’s authors.

“Nearly all of the warming they are now showing are in the adjustments,” Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, a study co-author, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview. “Each dataset pushed down the 1940s warming and pushed up the current warming.”

“You would think that when you make adjustments you’d sometimes get warming and sometimes get cooling. That’s almost never happened,” said D’Aleo, who co-authored the study with statistician James Wallace and Cato Institute climate scientist Craig Idso.



Their study found measurements “nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history,” which was “nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern.”

“The conclusive findings of this research are that the three [global average surface temperature] data sets are not a valid representation of reality,” the study found. “In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

Based on these results, the study’s authors claim the science underpinning the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) authority to regulate greenhouse gases “is invalidated.”

The new study will be included in petitions by conservative groups to the EPA to reconsider the 2009 endangerment finding, which gave the agency its legal authority to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

Sam Kazman, an attorney with the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), said the study added an “important new piece of evidence to this debate” over whether to reopen the endangerment finding. CEI petitioned EPA to reopen the endangerment finding in February.

“I think this adds a very strong new element to it,” Kazman told TheDCNF. “It’s enough reason to open things formally and open public comment on the charges we make.”

Since President Donald Trump ordered EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt to review the Clean Power Plan, there’s been speculation the administration would reopen the endangerment finding to new scrutiny.

The Obama-era document used three lines of evidence to claim such emissions from vehicles “endanger both the public health and the public welfare of current and future generations.”

D’Aleo and Wallace filed a petition with EPA on behalf of their group, the Concerned Household Electricity Consumers Council (CHECC). They relied on past their past research, which found one of EPA’s lines of evidence “simply does not exist in the real world.”

Their 2016 study “failed to find that the steadily rising atmospheric CO2 concentrations have had a statistically significant impact on any of the 13 critically important temperature time series data analyzed.”

“In sum, all three of the lines of evidence relied upon by EPA to attribute warming to human GHG emissions are invalid,” reads CHCC’s petition. “The Endangerment Finding itself is therefore invalid and should be reconsidered.

Pruitt’s largely been silent on whether or not he would reopen the endangerment finding, but the administrator did say he was spearheading a red team exercise to tackle climate science.

Secretary of Energy Rick Perry also came out in favor of red-blue team exercises, which are used by the military and intelligence agencies to expose any vulnerabilities to systems or strategies.

Environmental activists and climate scientists largely panned the idea, with some even arguing it would be “dangerous” to elevate minority scientific opinions.

“Such calls for special teams of investigators are not about honest scientific debate,” wrote climate scientist Ben Santer and Kerry Emanuel and historian and activist Naomi Oreskes.

“They are dangerous attempts to elevate the status of minority opinions, and to undercut the legitimacy, objectivity and transparency of existing climate science,” the three wrote in a recent Washington Post op-ed.

“Frankly, I think you could do a red-blue team exercise as part of reviewing the endangerment finding,” Kazman said.

Though Kazman did warn a red team exercise could be a double-edged sword if not done correctly. He worries some scientists not supportive of the idea could undermine the process from the inside and use it to grandstand.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:26 pm
 


So the Earth isn't warming?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:32 pm
 


Nope... and all the junk we throw on it, in it or above it actually makes it better.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:33 pm
 


Tricks wrote:
So the Earth isn't warming?


Not to the degree that's been represented, no.

These people point out that past temperatures were adjusted downward and temps after the 1960's were adjusted upward and then cooling periods were 'normalized.

The impact of all of this was to erase typical warming and cooling cycles and then to make the past look cooler than it was...the result being a false impression that the world has been steadily and dramatically warming.

Be sure to read the research paper and not just the news article. The paper gets into the details of how the numbers were compiled and adjusted.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:38 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Tricks wrote:
So the Earth isn't warming?


Not to the degree that's been represented, no.

These people point out that past temperatures were adjusted downward and temps after the 1960's were adjusted upward and then cooling periods were 'normalized.

The impact of all of this was to erase typical warming and cooling cycles and then to make the past look cooler than it was...the result being a false impression that the world has been steadily and dramatically warming.

Be sure to read the research paper and not just the news article. The paper gets into the details of how the numbers were compiled and adjusted.

I skimmed through it. No proof of peer review as stated in the article. Many of their sources are questionable, either linking to climate denying websites/people or just citing themselves. But I haven't read anything when they looked at the data provided by legit sources, just looked at the sources they used. Work gets in the way.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:04 pm
 


Climate change/global warming is all a scam perpetrated by the globalists to sell shit and fear monger everyone else into doing the same thing. Temperatures and climate will adjust over time as it has since the Earth was created. It's complete human arrogance to think that we know what this planet does after being on it for only a minute fraction of it's entire existence. Do we contribute in a small part to these planetary cycles? Absolutely, but not anywhere near the levels claimed by 'experts'. Human greed and lust for power has made the authorities indoctrinate people into this garbage in the first place.

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Joseph D'Aleo is a former college professor of Meteorology at Lyndon State College.

He is the Executive Director and Certified Consultant Meteorologist of the International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project (ICECAP), an organization of climate change skeptics.

D'Aleo was the first Director of Meteorology at the cable TV Weather Channel and was ex-Chief Meteorologist at Weather Services International Corporation and Senior Editor of “Dr. Dewpoint” for WSI’s Intellicast.com web site.

He was a co-author of Fraser Institute's 2007 Independent Summary for Policymakers (ISPM).

According to leaked documents, D'Aleo is one of a number of climate change skeptics who receives funding from the Heartland Institute, an organization at the forefront of climate change skepticism in the U.S.....

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Joseph D'Aleo is one of several climate change skeptics cc'd on an email from S. Fred Singer in hopes of countering the documentary film “Merchants of Doubt,” which exposes the network of climate change skeptics and deniers trying to delay legislative action on climate change.

The October, 2014 email was leaked to journalists before the documentary was released. “Can I sue for damages?” Singer asked in the email. “Can we get an injunction against the documentary?”

InsideClimate News reports in their article “Leaked Email Reveals Who's Who List of Climate Denialists,” how “Many of those copied on the email thread, such as Singer and communications specialist Steven Milloy, have financial ties to the tobacco, chemical, and oil and gas industries and have worked to defend them since the 1990s.” [10]



https://www.desmogblog.com/joseph-d-aleo


Remember when I said most supposedly independent denier scientists are secretly funded by Heartland Institute? Here's another.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:04 pm
 


BeaverFever wrote:
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https://www.desmogblog.com/joseph-d-aleo


Remember when I said most supposedly independent denier scientists are secretly funded by Heartland Institute?


And remember when I told you Desmogblog has nothing to brag about?

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The Truth about DeSmogBlog

DeSmogBlog is a smear site founded by a scientifically unqualified public relations man, James Hoggan and funded by a convicted money launderer, John Lefebvre. The irony here is their favorite tactic is to attempt to smear those they disagree with as funded by "dirty money". Since its creation in 2006 the site has done nothing but post poorly researched propaganda with a clear intent to smear respected scientists, policy analysts or groups who dare oppose an alarmist position on global warming. Their articles frequently reference unreliable sources such as Wikipedia and Sourcewatch since they are unable to find any fact based criticisms of those they attack in respected news sources.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:23 pm
 


Lmao you are ridiculous. You must have some kind of disorder that prevents you from obtaining any type of insight into yourself because what you falsely accuse others of you are the most guilty ine on this forum.

Posting facts that this man is known climate denier paid by Heartland Institute is not a "smear". It is a relevant fact that speaks directly to his credibility.

Meanwhile what you've posted is the literal definition of a smear. Nothing what you said contradicts the facts about D'Aleo above, and whether they are scientists or not is irrelevant because they don't claim to make any scientific claims of their own, and empty insults like "unqualified PR Man" etc etc and vague general accusations without evidence

You're worse than the pot calling the kettle black. You're the lump of coal calling the snowman black while deluded into thinking you're actually the snowman and he's the lump of coal.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:44 pm
 


BeaverFever wrote:
Lmao you are ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:58 pm
 


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“Merchants of Doubt” bombs at box office

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“Merchants of Doubt” — the new attack-umentory released last week — has been a box-office bomb. Even the anti-carbon activists can’t be bothered watching the rehashed malevolent fantasy speculation about the scientists who dared stand against the establishment.

Jim Lakely at Heartland reports that total takings were $23,300 last weekend.

It uses 20 year old documents to absurdly try to tie the smoking campaign to the climate debate. Oreskes fights on the side with billions of dollars but tries to paint herself the victim of intimidation. No one is buying it. The Merchants of Doubt is an unwitting self projection of her own obsession trying to sell doubts about honest, upstanding scientists.

Fred Singer got his PhD in 1948 on cosmic ray showers. His thesis committee included J. Robert Oppenheimer and Niels Bohr. I’d like to see Fred Singer discuss atmospheric physics with Naomi. Bring on the debate that matters and let the smear campaign get all it deserves.


http://joannenova.com.au/2015/03/mercha ... ox-office/


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 pm
 


BTW, Baghdad Beave, got anything to say about the actual subject of this thread?

Doubt it, but thought I'd check.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:22 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
“Merchants of Doubt” bombs at box office

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“Merchants of Doubt” — the new attack-umentory released last week — has been a box-office bomb. Even the anti-carbon activists can’t be bothered watching the rehashed malevolent fantasy speculation about the scientists who dared stand against the establishment.

Jim Lakely at Heartland reports that total takings were $23,300 last weekend.

It uses 20 year old documents to absurdly try to tie the smoking campaign to the climate debate. Oreskes fights on the side with billions of dollars but tries to paint herself the victim of intimidation. No one is buying it. The Merchants of Doubt is an unwitting self projection of her own obsession trying to sell doubts about honest, upstanding scientists.

Fred Singer got his PhD in 1948 on cosmic ray showers. His thesis committee included J. Robert Oppenheimer and Niels Bohr. I’d like to see Fred Singer discuss atmospheric physics with Naomi. Bring on the debate that matters and let the smear campaign get all it deserves.


http://joannenova.com.au/2015/03/mercha ... ox-office/



Another meaningless smear attempt. And by the Heartland Institute no less. Since when do documentaries do well at the bix office? Do they even have a "box office"? It's won numerous awards.


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