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DrCaleb wrote:
USA Temperature: can I sucker you?
Do you have anything to sell??
Can you tell us how we can make some money off of this useless knowledge?!?

 Zipperfish CKA Uber   Posts: 20924 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:06 pm   PluggyRug wrote:Zipperfish wrote:PluggyRug wrote:Once data has been manipulated it ceases to be data.I don't think so. BY that rule converting Fahrenheit to Celsius wouldn't work.No, that's math. This is similar to {Cx1.8}+32=F written as (Cx1.+64)=FMost of the manipulation is math. It's math that converts the resistance detected in a microwave receiver to a temperature.
 CharlesAnthony Forum Elite Posts: 1486 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:42 am   Zipperfish wrote:PluggyRug wrote:Zipperfish wrote:I don't think so. BY that rule converting Fahrenheit to Celsius wouldn't work. No, that's math. This is similar to {Cx1.8}+32=F written as (Cx1.+64)=FMost of the manipulation is math. It's math that converts the resistance detected in a microwave receiver to a temperature. No. It is the power of God (or "physics" for the farmers) that converts resistance detected in a microwave receiver to a temperature. You guys are creative.
 Zipperfish CKA Uber   Posts: 20924 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:17 am   CharlesAnthony wrote:No. It is the power of God (or "physics" for the farmers) that converts resistance detected in a microwave receiver to a temperature. You guys are creative.Physics is not mathematics and mathematics is not physics -- Richard Feynman...and yes, he was enormously creative.
 DrCaleb CKA Moderator Posts: 36240 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:30 am   Zipperfish wrote:PluggyRug wrote:Zipperfish wrote:I don't think so. BY that rule converting Fahrenheit to Celsius wouldn't work.No, that's math. This is similar to {Cx1.8}+32=F written as (Cx1.+64)=FMost of the manipulation is math. It's math that converts the resistance detected in a microwave receiver to a temperature.Statistics has been a branch of mathematics for a few hundred years now.Most of our lives are successfully influenced by that branch of math.
 BartSimpson CKA Moderator   Posts: 65088 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:57 am   DrCaleb wrote:Statistics has been a branch of mathematics for a few hundred years now.Most of our lives are successfully influenced by that branch of math.Not always. People have a nagging tendency to refute statisticians by doing things that are statistically improbable (Trump) or by simply noting that statistical projections are not always accurate, such as no more snow in the UK by 2010.
 Tricks CKA Uber   Posts: 24268 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 am   BartSimpson wrote:DrCaleb wrote:Statistics has been a branch of mathematics for a few hundred years now.Most of our lives are successfully influenced by that branch of math.Not always. People have a nagging tendency to refute statisticians by doing things that are statistically improbable (Trump) or by simply noting that statistical projections are not always accurate, such as no more snow in the UK by 2010.Improbable doesn't mean impossible.
 BartSimpson CKA Moderator   Posts: 65088 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:29 am   Tricks wrote:Improbable doesn't mean impossible.And any more when some learned person tells me that something is impossible then I'm not at all surprised when they're proven wrong.
 Tricks CKA Uber   Posts: 24268 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 am   BartSimpson wrote:Tricks wrote:Improbable doesn't mean impossible.And any more when some learned person tells me that something is impossible then I'm not at all surprised when they're proven wrong.I feel like the term impossible has been cheapened by hyperbole recently.
 BartSimpson CKA Moderator   Posts: 65088 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:35 am   Me, too.
 raydan CKA Uber   Posts: 30487 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:15 pm   Flip a coin 100 times and chances are, you'll get close to a 50/50 split. While it's possible to get 100 heads or 100 tails, chances are so astronomically against it, might as well say it's impossible.
 DrCaleb CKA Moderator Posts: 36240 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:27 am   BartSimpson wrote:DrCaleb wrote:Statistics has been a branch of mathematics for a few hundred years now.Most of our lives are successfully influenced by that branch of math.Not always. People have a nagging tendency to refute statisticians by doing things that are statistically improbable (Trump) or by simply noting that statistical projections are not always accurate, such as no more snow in the UK by 2010.So you did read the article! It was about how cherry picking statistics can be used to lie, and further disrepute statisticians.Trump wasn't statistically improbable, they were just asking the wrong questions. If they had asked 'do you intend to vote' and correlated that with who they would vote for, I bet they would have been more accurate.
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