[Bruce_the_vii]

To replace oil you'd need 3 million sq. miles of wind farms. That's the size of Canada. That's with a fair dense spacing of turbines. The oceans are available, but it'd take a much larger space as you have to provide room for shipping. With expansion of the world population and the world economy you'd need all the world's oceans to be covered in wind turbine

[ziggy]

Where did you get those figures?You planning on powering some distant planets as well as ours?

[mtbr]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

To replace oil you'd need 3 million sq. miles of wind farms. That's the size of Canada. That's with a fair dense spacing of turbines. The oceans are available, but it'd take a much larger space as you have to provide room for shipping. With expansion of the world population and the world economy you'd need all the world's oceans to be covered in wind turbine

oh my! just think of all the dead ducks

[Canadian_Mind]

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

[ziggy]

Canadian_Mind wrote:

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

They are,I live about 20 miles from them.A bud of mine just got the contract to excavate the foundations for another 400 turbines.

[mtbr]

Canadian_Mind wrote:

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

never been to Alberta have you? biggest wind farm in the country....we're not just about dirty oil

[Brenda]

IN the rockies...
I live in the Selkirk mountains... We don't "do" wind

[Alta_redneck]

ziggy wrote:

Canadian_Mind wrote:

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

They are,I live about 20 miles from them.A bud of mine just got the contract to excavate the foundations for another 400 turbines.

Any of them happening in the bible belt?

Those farmers in the Pine Lake, Trochu area want to fill up those useless acres of hills out there. The company that's building the WM's held a info meeting last year. To end the presentation, the guy asked "Ok, who wants to sign up." Kind of a lite way to end the meeting, he wasn’t sure what the reaction would be.

About 200 farmers in the hall stood up and started forming a line ready to sign on.

[ziggy]

mtbr wrote:

Canadian_Mind wrote:

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

never been to Alberta have you? biggest wind farm in the country....we're not just about dirty oil

It was a farmer from pincher creek who took on the govt and transalta to get them to pay him the going rate for the power he put back on the grid.That opened the door for the big outfits to start putting them in.The guys that started it all are from Palm springs California where they have a huge wind farm.

Each one can power at least 400 homes,they are huge,quiet,and they dont kill birds.

[ziggy]

Alta_redneck wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Canadian_Mind wrote:

no reasons why turbines can't be set up in the rockies and across farmers fields, just another money maker for them, much like oil pumps.

They are,I live about 20 miles from them.A bud of mine just got the contract to excavate the foundations for another 400 turbines.

Any of them happening in the bible belt?

Those farmers in the Pine Lake, Trochu area want to fill up those useless acres of hills out there. The company that's building the WM's held a info meeting last year. To end the presentation, the guy asked "Ok, who wants to sign up." Kind of a lite way to end the meeting, he wasn’t sure what the reaction would be.

About 200 farmers in the hall stood up and started forming a line ready to sign on.

I spent a few years in that area and used to wonder why they werent installing them there.

Coupled with the CBM wells on their land most of those farmers are doing quite well.
I think they get free power for life also.

[N_Fiddledog]

Are Canadian wind farms subsidized in any way?

[bootlegga]

Bruce_the_vii wrote:

To replace oil you'd need 3 million sq. miles of wind farms. That's the size of Canada. That's with a fair dense spacing of turbines. The oceans are available, but it'd take a much larger space as you have to provide room for shipping. With expansion of the world population and the world economy you'd need all the world's oceans to be covered in wind turbine

Wind power is far better than oil.

Wind power is replaceable, oil is not. Wind power doesn't pollute anywhere near as much as oil does (if at all).

If you want to use wind power to replace oil, you need a way to translate all that power for use in automobiles (where 1/3 of oil is used). The best way to do that is to convert to plug-in electric cars and/or use the surplus electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, then dump the hydrogen into fuel cell vehicles. When there is no wind, that cracked hydrogen can also be sent to powerplants to generate electricity.

[Zipperfish]

They used to be subsidized by Natural Resources Canada to the tune of 1 cent per kWh or something. Thatw as under the Martin government. Not sure if they still are or not.

[mtbr]

Zipperfish wrote:

They used to be subsidized by Natural Resources Canada to the tune of 1 cent per kWh or something. Thatw as under the Martin government. Not sure if they still are or not.

yeah they still are what do you think the big bad ole conservatives nixed it for oil buddies?
They're subsidized heavily and will be for years to come because they make ZERO profit.

[Sapio]

The biggest problem with wind, like with oil is that people will want the government to put money into it. Wind is fine, but let the private sector work with it. No government.