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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:06 pm
 


HA! So you know Triston then.... :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:08 pm
 


Both born and bred in Sask... :D Although he is.. a few years younger then me.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:09 pm
 


Lethbridge Hurricanes WHL


We know Triston pretty well. Which one are you?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:13 pm
 


Derek Parker, played in Melville


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:18 pm
 


Wow!! Awesome PIMs. Ever fight Grant?

Didn't you play in Wichita last season?


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If it's really you, I have you on a fight tape or two. :wink:


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All I can say is thats abhorent. First off as a hockey coach I don't prescribe to the yelling and win at all costs attitude. I run 3 very successful programs. Generally I am well contained, I was an extremely competative hockey player (goaltender) with a very short fuse and quick temper. I am however, not like that behind the bench. I rarely if ever show emotion before during or after the game. If I yell it is becuase it is needed at that point, or I am too frustrated to believe that a coverage or a system was not adhered to. My players listen to me because I explain things to them they don't listen to me because I go flying off the handle every ten minutes. I coach against guys like that.. it's fun watching them boil over.


It was my old coach who got me into reffing (Shortage of volunteers). Twister sounds like a typical coach (no offence). A great deal of the reactions by coach/parents were "gut" reactions. Example. I reffed a game (atoms) where during the course of play 2 players were chasing a puck into the corner (waved off icing situation) and both fell together. The outcry was enormous. Both mothers (I'm assuming) were screaming that their boy was fouled. They were screaming at me. The coaches were (both) yelling for penalities and the two kids. They got up and skated away as the accident it was. This was the 3rd game of hockey I had ever reffere'ed kids follow the examples set for them. Competetion is fine but lets remember that these are KIDS we are dealing with.


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All I can say is thats abhorent. First off as a hockey coach I don't prescribe to the yelling and win at all costs attitude. I run 3 very successful programs. Generally I am well contained, I was an extremely competative hockey player (goaltender) with a very short fuse and quick temper. I am however, not like that behind the bench. I rarely if ever show emotion before during or after the game. If I yell it is becuase it is needed at that point, or I am too frustrated to believe that a coverage or a system was not adhered to. My players listen to me because I explain things to them they don't listen to me because I go flying off the handle every ten minutes. I coach against guys like that.. it's fun watching them boil over.

I should also preface the fact that I coach Elite hockey players over the age of 16. I have a BHK in coaching and Sport Science.. I have a number of coachinglevels NCCP 3 advanced 1 hockey.
I should also make comment that when I played I had both abusive coaches and coaches who cared enough to teach me about the game and about life. Those coaches who helped me are the ones I modeled my coaching techniques and attitudes around. Yes I develop hockey players, but I also try to help ing the growth and direction of my players to develop as people and as team mates,

The second reason I feel this is abhorent is because my oldest son has a developmental disorder. At the age of three he was diagnosed with Autism, we have spent a lot of time and effort working him through different programs etc since then he is going into Grade 4. He has friends and really enjoys school and has as "normal of a life" as any 9 year old has. This coaches actions bother me as a parent and as a coach. It bothers me that because he wanted to win a 9 year old T ball game.. (a game my son plays and is extremely good at it because he enjoys it) he pays some kid to take out the "defective one' so they stand a better chance of winning. At that age the game in not competitive... (or at least shouldn't be..) this is where kids are learning the game.. Same thing in minor hockey Initiation,Novice Atom Peewee.. these are the places where kids are first coming into the game.. this is thier gateway to the sport.. If they go on to become elite players great (age Peewee and beyond) If they don't the all have to learn skills and teamwork. At the novice and atom levels I don't believe there should be stats, standings or even elite travel rep teams... the kids are still too young. Quick question re t-ball... how many t - ball world championships are there in this sport?.. hmm none... don't take it so seriously is all that should be taken from this to all of us. This guy made a stupid decision and should be made to pay a price.. No more coaching of youth.. period in any sport.

And derbyX.. i am not a "typical" coach. I adress all officials in a prompt and courtious manner. I have reffed for going on 12 years at a senior and minor hockey level as well. Yes coaches sometimes get carried away and they should have the riot act read to them when that happens. We all have a code of conduct from Hockey Canada. I expect my players to abide by the players code. My staff and I abide by the coaches and administrators code of conduct. I even ask parents who are involved with my program if the get too boisterous at a game to refer to the parents code of conduct and what is expected of them. As an official (on ice) I have taken abuse from players, coaches and parents and metered out the discipline accorded by the rules). As a coach I don't take abuse from anyone this is my program. If a parent is out of line I will talk to them, If one of my staff is out of line I talk to them. Communication is a wonderful key.
Oh by the way I didn't take offence by your comment. I feel that respect is earned and is a two way street. You show me respect I return it in kind.


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