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Would you carry the flag if you had an event shortly after the Opening Ceremonies?
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Hell, I'm just happy to be there  8%  [ 1 ]
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Many of Canada's top Olympians don't want to carry flag in ceremonies NEIL STEVENS
Wed Jan 18, 6:38 PM ET



(CP) - Joe Sakic and the rest of Canada's men's Olympic hockey team will still be playing NHL games, so rule them out as possible flag-bearers for the opening ceremonies in Turin, Italy.

Beckie Scott, Canada's most famous cross-country skier, has a difficult race less than 48 hours after the ceremonies and has no desire to burn an ounce of energy doing anything other than competing.

A combination of circumstances, it seems, is limiting the number of high-profile athletes the Canadian Olympic Committee will be able to choose from in selecting a flag-bearer.

The COC will hold news conferences Jan. 26 in Calgary and Montreal to name the entire Olympic team, and also to announce who'll carry Canada's flag into the stadium during opening ceremonies Feb. 10.

Scott is defending Olympic champion in the cross-country pursuit, which is one of six events she's entered. She'll race 7.5 kilometres using classic technique, change equipment, and go another 7.5 kilometres in a ski-skate to the finish.

How the 31-year-old Vermilion, Alta., skier prepares is vital. As far as she's concerned, it shouldn't involve marching into a stadium, climbing stairs and sitting through hours of ceremonies.

"We just can't afford to waste any energy on anything," Canadian cross-country coach Dave Wood said Wednesday. "The opening ceremonies (on the Friday night) is, in a way, a gruelling event in itself.

"We have an event on Sunday and she felt, and we totally support her, that she's got a finite amount of energy, and she wants to put it into the competitions. Our sport is incredibly physically demanding. You just have to have everything at your disposal."

Each sport is asked by the COC to nominate a candidate for flag-bearer.

Because Scott doesn't want to do it, Cross Country Canada won't be forwarding a name.

Neither will Bobsleigh Canada after world champion Pierre Lueders, also citing the need to concentrate completely on competition, asked that his federation withhold his name from consideration.

Speed skating stars Cindy Klassen and Clara Hughes also asked that their names not be put forward.

They were personal decisions respected by Speed Skating Canada, said high performance director Emery Holmik.

Involvement in the opening ceremonies takes up the better part of the day and the time commitment is even greater for athletes living at sub-villages in far-flung towns.

"There are also many extra demands placed on the flag-bearer that potentially take away from the preparation (for competition) and which can be a distraction," said Holmik. "A number of athletes choose not to take on that added responsibility because they believe their first responsibility is to perform at their absolute maximum."

Holmik admits there is pride in carrying the flag and representing your country.

"But all that has to be balanced with how it affects the athlete," he said. "Some say participating in the opening ceremonies is an uplifting experience and take the position that, 'I'll benefit.' Others decide that taking part, standing for so long, having to change schedules . . . that maybe that will affect results and they choose not to participate."

To be accurate, the COC does not seek out individual athletes to be flag-bearer.

The COC sends a form three months before the Games to each national sport federation asking for one nominee per sport discipline. There are 15 disciplines, so the names of a maximum of 15 athletes can be put forward. A six-member committee chaired by Caroline Assalian, the COC's director of sport and major Games, then chooses a flag-bearer. The committee includes athlete and coaching representation.

The COC says it has yet to ask any athlete to be flag-bearer in Turin.

The Canadian Curling Association has nominated veteran Russ Howard, who is a member of Brad Gushue's rink that will compete at the Games.

"It's great to have such support but I'm just trying to focus on curling," says Howard. "They should pick Wayne Gretzky or somebody like that.

"It's just an honour to be nominated."

The women's hockey team, which plays its first game the day after the opening ceremonies, has submitted a name but, in keeping with the confidentiality requested by the COC, hasn't made it public.

After carrying the flag in the opening ceremonies in Salt Lake City four years ago, Le May Doan won a gold medal on the ice. She says she never bought into the so-called "flag-bearer's jinx."

"I almost loved that people then talked about the jinx because I never believed in it," she said. "So I wanted to prove that it was wrong. And I did."

In Nagano, Japan, in 1998, freestyle skier Jean-Luc Brassard happily accepted the role. After he failed to win a medal, he touched off controversy by suggesting that being flag-bearer hindered his efforts on the hills.

In Athens in 2004, judo athlete Nicolas Gill was selected, and there was an ensuing stink when it was reported the Montrealer had at one time supported the Quebec separatist movement.



Canada's flag-bearers in last 20 years and how they've fared:

Winter Games

2002 - Catriona Le May Doan, speed skating, gold in Salt Lake City.

1998 - Jean-Luc Brassard, freestyle skiing moguls, no medal in Nagano, Japan.

1994 - Kurt Browning, figure skating, fifth in Hamar, Norway.

1992 - Sylvie Daigle, speed skating, gold in Albertville, France.

1988 - Brian Orser, figure skating, silver in Calgary.

1984 - Gaetan Boucher, speed skating, won two gold and one bronze in Sarjevo, Yugoslavia.



Summer Games

2004 - Nicolas Gill, Judo, no medal in Athens.

2000 - Caroline Brunet, kayaking, silver in Sydney.

1996 - Charmaine Crooks, track and field, no medal in Atlanta.

1992 - Michael Smith, track and field, no result in Barcelona.

1988 - Carolyn Waldo, synchronized swimming, gold in Seoul.

1984 - Alex Baumann, swimming, two gold in Los Angeles.



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Many of Canada's top Olympians don't want to carry flag in ceremonies NEIL STEVENS
Wed Jan 18, 6:38 PM ET



(CP) - Joe Sakic and the rest of Canada's men's Olympic hockey team will still be playing NHL games, so rule them out as possible flag-bearers for the opening ceremonies in Turin, Italy.

Beckie Scott, Canada's most famous cross-country skier, has a difficult race less than 48 hours after the ceremonies and has no desire to burn an ounce of energy doing anything other than competing.

A combination of circumstances, it seems, is limiting the number of high-profile athletes the Canadian Olympic Committee will be able to choose from in selecting a flag-bearer.

The COC will hold news conferences Jan. 26 in Calgary and Montreal to name the entire Olympic team, and also to announce who'll carry Canada's flag into the stadium during opening ceremonies Feb. 10.

Scott is defending Olympic champion in the cross-country pursuit, which is one of six events she's entered. She'll race 7.5 kilometres using classic technique, change equipment, and go another 7.5 kilometres in a ski-skate to the finish.

How the 31-year-old Vermilion, Alta., skier prepares is vital. As far as she's concerned, it shouldn't involve marching into a stadium, climbing stairs and sitting through hours of ceremonies.

"We just can't afford to waste any energy on anything," Canadian cross-country coach Dave Wood said Wednesday. "The opening ceremonies (on the Friday night) is, in a way, a gruelling event in itself.

"We have an event on Sunday and she felt, and we totally support her, that she's got a finite amount of energy, and she wants to put it into the competitions. Our sport is incredibly physically demanding. You just have to have everything at your disposal."

Each sport is asked by the COC to nominate a candidate for flag-bearer.

Because Scott doesn't want to do it, Cross Country Canada won't be forwarding a name.

Neither will Bobsleigh Canada after world champion Pierre Lueders, also citing the need to concentrate completely on competition, asked that his federation withhold his name from consideration.

Speed skating stars Cindy Klassen and Clara Hughes also asked that their names not be put forward.

They were personal decisions respected by Speed Skating Canada, said high performance director Emery Holmik.

Involvement in the opening ceremonies takes up the better part of the day and the time commitment is even greater for athletes living at sub-villages in far-flung towns.

"There are also many extra demands placed on the flag-bearer that potentially take away from the preparation (for competition) and which can be a distraction," said Holmik. "A number of athletes choose not to take on that added responsibility because they believe their first responsibility is to perform at their absolute maximum."

Holmik admits there is pride in carrying the flag and representing your country.

"But all that has to be balanced with how it affects the athlete," he said. "Some say participating in the opening ceremonies is an uplifting experience and take the position that, 'I'll benefit.' Others decide that taking part, standing for so long, having to change schedules . . . that maybe that will affect results and they choose not to participate."

To be accurate, the COC does not seek out individual athletes to be flag-bearer.

The COC sends a form three months before the Games to each national sport federation asking for one nominee per sport discipline. There are 15 disciplines, so the names of a maximum of 15 athletes can be put forward. A six-member committee chaired by Caroline Assalian, the COC's director of sport and major Games, then chooses a flag-bearer. The committee includes athlete and coaching representation.

The COC says it has yet to ask any athlete to be flag-bearer in Turin.

The Canadian Curling Association has nominated veteran Russ Howard, who is a member of Brad Gushue's rink that will compete at the Games.

"It's great to have such support but I'm just trying to focus on curling," says Howard. "They should pick Wayne Gretzky or somebody like that.

"It's just an honour to be nominated."

The women's hockey team, which plays its first game the day after the opening ceremonies, has submitted a name but, in keeping with the confidentiality requested by the COC, hasn't made it public.

After carrying the flag in the opening ceremonies in Salt Lake City four years ago, Le May Doan won a gold medal on the ice. She says she never bought into the so-called "flag-bearer's jinx."

"I almost loved that people then talked about the jinx because I never believed in it," she said. "So I wanted to prove that it was wrong. And I did."

In Nagano, Japan, in 1998, freestyle skier Jean-Luc Brassard happily accepted the role. After he failed to win a medal, he touched off controversy by suggesting that being flag-bearer hindered his efforts on the hills.

In Athens in 2004, judo athlete Nicolas Gill was selected, and there was an ensuing stink when it was reported the Montrealer had at one time supported the Quebec separatist movement.



Canada's flag-bearers in last 20 years and how they've fared:

Winter Games

2002 - Catriona Le May Doan, speed skating, gold in Salt Lake City.

1998 - Jean-Luc Brassard, freestyle skiing moguls, no medal in Nagano, Japan.

1994 - Kurt Browning, figure skating, fifth in Hamar, Norway.

1992 - Sylvie Daigle, speed skating, gold in Albertville, France.

1988 - Brian Orser, figure skating, silver in Calgary.

1984 - Gaetan Boucher, speed skating, won two gold and one bronze in Sarjevo, Yugoslavia.



Summer Games

2004 - Nicolas Gill, Judo, no medal in Athens.

2000 - Caroline Brunet, kayaking, silver in Sydney.

1996 - Charmaine Crooks, track and field, no medal in Atlanta.

1992 - Michael Smith, track and field, no result in Barcelona.

1988 - Carolyn Waldo, synchronized swimming, gold in Seoul.

1984 - Alex Baumann, swimming, two gold in Los Angeles.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:40 am
 


Don Cherry was absolutly right when he said you would never see an American do this. They are actually proud of their country, and stand up for it.

These athletes are pathetic.

I'll be proudly rooting against every single one of the people who refuse to carry the flag, and I hope they break a leg.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:23 am
 


The Olympics is such a joke. A stupid peice of gold and people worry about burning a few calories, and pump up with steroids.

The governments put too much in the Olympics and now it's lost it's amature roots.

The days when John Pius Boland, an Irishman in athens on holiday could win gold in tennis are long gone.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:30 am
 


I'll do it. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:43 am
 


What a fine, supportive response drunk canuck. It's not like the athletes have a need for more pressure on their shoulders. If the athelete has a competition the next day or the day after, it is perfectly reasonable to decline the honour in order to train.

We already expect them to win every competition. Imagine if after being the flag bearer, the athlete loses their competition the next day or day after: people would castigate him or her for not training properly.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:19 pm
 


If you are too good to carry the flag for your country, then you are obviously too good to represent this country and should stay the hell home! You don't want to carry our colours? Very good. Find another country to play your little sport for.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:27 pm
 


I don't understand why they can't do it. How is it so strenuous that they won't do it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:29 pm
 


Tman1 wrote:
I don't understand why they can't do it. How is it so strenuous that they won't do it?


World class "athletes" not capable of carrying a flag carried in a sling..... makes no sense to me either Tman1


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