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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:47 pm
 


Some big names have just been dropped as too taking steroids. A-Rod, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, Sammy Sosa. Are these names really a surprise ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:47 pm
 


No.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:49 pm
 


another name is vernon wells ... he needs to get better roids


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:32 pm
 


This is gonna be a bit off topic, but since we are in the Baseball theme.

Have been listening to some analyst comment on the way J.P. Ricciardi handled the trade on Roy Halladay in the media. And I would have to agree, trade the GM not the pitcher. :lol:

Bring Pat Gillick. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:36 pm
 


... we have to trade doc or else were going to let the best pitcher in the game leave the team and we get nothing in return


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:43 pm
 


Apparently, he did not have to go to the media with the story, as he did. Perhaps, I did not know all the facts, but they could still trade him off season and get something for him. Either way, if the Blue Jays had a supporting cast, Doc would stick around. He wants to play for a winner and reasonably so.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:00 pm
 


But J.P said himself he wasn't going to trade doc unless he got "wowed" by a trade offer.

And we all know that doc being an allstar would like to win a championship
and we knew it wasnt going to be in toronto so we knew he was going to be traded eventually


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:07 pm
 


Either way, would love to see Roy stay in the Blue Jays roster.

He's the best thing to happen to that team since Joe Carter, Roberto Alomar, Pat Borders, John Olerud, Kelly Gruber... Well kinda get the picture eh! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:15 pm
 


Oh believe me id love him to stay.
but reality is he wants to win a championship


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:22 pm
 


PimpBrewski123 wrote:
This is gonna be a bit off topic, but since we are in the Baseball theme.

Have been listening to some analyst comment on the way J.P. Ricciardi handled the trade on Roy Halladay in the media. And I would have to agree, trade the GM not the pitcher. :lol:

Bring Pat Gillick. :)


As a lifelong Jays fan, there is NOTHING wrong with Ricciardi. Philly didn't wanna give up Drabek, JP walked.

It's time people adjust their expectations based on what the team is spending. When you spend a fraction of what the teams in your division do, you cannot compete. And please, spare me the "but Tampa did it" story....there's always flukes from year to year.

As for the roids, steroids saved baseball, IMO. That homerun race between Sosa and McGuire brought the game back from the dead....and MLB has roids to thank for it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:30 am
 


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PimpBrewski123 wrote:
This is gonna be a bit off topic, but since we are in the Baseball theme.

Have been listening to some analyst comment on the way J.P. Ricciardi handled the trade on Roy Halladay in the media. And I would have to agree, trade the GM not the pitcher. :lol:

Bring Pat Gillick. :)


As a lifelong Jays fan, there is NOTHING wrong with Ricciardi. Philly didn't wanna give up Drabek, JP walked.

It's time people adjust their expectations based on what the team is spending. When you spend a fraction of what the teams in your division do, you cannot compete. And please, spare me the "but Tampa did it" story....there's always flukes from year to year.

As for the roids, steroids saved baseball, IMO. That homerun race between Sosa and McGuire brought the game back from the dead....and MLB has roids to thank for it.
Yes I know exactly what you mean
but like its not a surprise that the numbers these guys were putting up that they were on roids

but i don't see a big deal because without some of these guys the league would be nothing


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:05 pm
 


Sports_Master2008 wrote:
OnTheIce wrote:
PimpBrewski123 wrote:
This is gonna be a bit off topic, but since we are in the Baseball theme.

Have been listening to some analyst comment on the way J.P. Ricciardi handled the trade on Roy Halladay in the media. And I would have to agree, trade the GM not the pitcher. :lol:

Bring Pat Gillick. :)


As a lifelong Jays fan, there is NOTHING wrong with Ricciardi. Philly didn't wanna give up Drabek, JP walked.

It's time people adjust their expectations based on what the team is spending. When you spend a fraction of what the teams in your division do, you cannot compete. And please, spare me the "but Tampa did it" story....there's always flukes from year to year.

As for the roids, steroids saved baseball, IMO. That homerun race between Sosa and McGuire brought the game back from the dead....and MLB has roids to thank for it.
Yes I know exactly what you mean
but like its not a surprise that the numbers these guys were putting up that they were on roids

but i don't see a big deal because without some of these guys the league would be nothing


Considering the amount of people using is well over 100, people seem to forget that pitchers used it too.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:20 pm
 


They've all cost themselves their honour, and for many of them, their place in Cooperstown. But who I really feel bad for are the legitimately clean players of the past 20 years who WOULD have been considered Hall of Famers, but lost out on MVP awards to cheaters. Players like Fred McGriff who, after maybe Thomas and Griffey, was probably the best CLEAN power hitter of the last 20 years, but is forgotten about behind cheaters like A-Fraud and Manny and Bonds and Palmeiro and Sosa.

On the Halladay front, the Jays have a lot of talent that isn't ready this year, but might be next. You keep Halladay. It's a no-brainer. You keep him and hope the whole bunch of kids catch lightning next year. If they're in contention, then you're happy you have a true ace. If they're not in it next July 31, trade Roy then. He'll be worth just as much this time next year (excepting a serious injury). Trading arguably the best pitcher in the game when he's still got another year on his contract is a stupid move.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:40 pm
 


Lemmy wrote:
They've all cost themselves their honour, and for many of them, their place in Cooperstown. But who I really feel bad for are the legitimately clean players of the past 20 years who WOULD have been considered Hall of Famers, but lost out on MVP awards to cheaters. Players like Fred McGriff who, after maybe Thomas and Griffey, was probably the best CLEAN power hitter of the last 20 years, but is forgotten about behind cheaters like A-Fraud and Manny and Bonds and Palmeiro and Sosa.

On the Halladay front, the Jays have a lot of talent that isn't ready this year, but might be next. You keep Halladay. It's a no-brainer. You keep him and hope the whole bunch of kids catch lightning next year. If they're in contention, then you're happy you have a true ace. If they're not in it next July 31, trade Roy then. He'll be worth just as much this time next year (excepting a serious injury). Trading arguably the best pitcher in the game when he's still got another year on his contract is a stupid move.


"Cheating" is a term used for those who break the rules. They didn't break the rules, nor did the guys in the NHL by throwing back Sudafed before games.

MLB turned a blind eye to their players using drugs so it's hypocritical to turn the other cheek now when it's their time to collect on their achievements. Those achievements include allowing baseball to grow following the strike.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:54 pm
 


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"Cheating" is a term used for those who break the rules. They didn't break the rules, nor did the guys in the NHL by throwing back Sudafed before games.


They never broke the baseball rules, but they broke the code of conduct of honest men. They cheated the game, the fans and themselves, whether they broke the rules of baseball or not.

OnTheIce wrote:
"MLB turned a blind eye to their players using drugs so it's hypocritical to turn the other cheek now when it's their time to collect on their achievements. Those achievements include allowing baseball to grow following the strike.


No. You don't reward a thief for being a good thief. The steriod era was a crooked partnership between dumb, rich narcicists and their greedy employers. It will be regarded historically, and justly so, as a sad black-mark on the history of the game.


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