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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:39 am
 


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Both great points. With the tracks, the 1.5 mile cookie cutter gets way too many races, and often provide the same low quality of racing with little passing and little action. The Talledegas, Daytonas, Bristols, and Martinvilles are the real quality tracks with the road courses coming up behind them. I'm not sure there is one cookie cutter track that really provides good racing save for maybe Pheonix or Vegas. California, Chicagoland, Kansas - dull.


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I'll agree the cookie cutter tracks are f*(%ing boring.
Worst thing they ever did was cancel .. oh hell I cant remember the track, Southeast, gimme coffee and I'll get it.


The Rock... you got it. Also North Wilksborough. I'd add Pocono to the list of dull tracks. I'd like to see a couple of more road races.

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Financial crisis yes, not sure about NFL though.
A corporate NASCAR has definitely hurt, JJ and 5 championships has hurt,
those 'arbritrary' yellows with 10 laps to go has hurt,
Cup drivers in Nationwide and Truck has hurt, but maybe that gets fixed,
clean PC cant tell which driver it is has hurt.


Yeah, I don't buy the NFL. JJ's five championships may have hurt, but that's not NASCAR's fault, anymore than Petty's 200 wins. As I said to CND Patriot - everyone esle just needs to stop sucking. The arbitrary yellows became so obvious that they tapered off and I agree the spill over of Cup drivers into the other series has not helped the other series in the development of new quality drivers but it has probably helped the series by bringing big names and bigger sponser into them. This year was also not so PC - whether it was Edwards tipping Kesolowski or inexplicably Gordon swinging at Burton (loved that) this year the "boys had at 'er" and I think we'll see more of that this season. Add Kyle Busch's non-stop bullshit and it ain't as PC as the year before.

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Dont know about scheduling either.. Seems these days with digital TV, and
West Coast people able to choose East Coast games to PPV,
and internet streaming has changed a lot of things.
Saturday night racing is good, but internationally forget it, Sunday afternoon
equals Sunday evening in Europe, still ok.. I think you have to play to your base
these days though.


I was furious at the lack of Chase coverage on TSN. Four races in a row not covered. At least I can watch it online. I hope it's better this year now that I have a few more channels with digital cable.

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One thing that can help NASCAR this year: GET RID OF THE !@#%ING COMPETITION CAUTIONS!!!!!

It's complete BS that they call these cautions in the first place. Let the boys race for crying out loud! Also, there were some questionable yellows thrown for
debris on the track last season as well. I don't know what the cameramen were looking at on a couple of them, but I didn't see any debris. Unless you count a peanut, or a kernel of popcorn. Sheesh.

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CDN_PATRIOT wrote:
One thing that can help NASCAR this year: GET RID OF THE !@#%ING COMPETITION CAUTIONS!!!!!

It's complete BS that they call these cautions in the first place. Let the boys race for crying out loud! Also, there were some questionable yellows thrown for
debris on the track last season as well. I don't know what the cameramen were looking at on a couple of them, but I didn't see any debris. Unless you count a peanut, or a kernel of popcorn. Sheesh.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Dega been clean last few years.. :)


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Dega been clean last few years.. :)


Ha! Oh aren't you a wit... :evil:


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10 Tough Questions: Part 2
posted on Jan 18, 2011

As the 2011 NASCAR season approaches, Athlon Sports examines 10 controversial issues alive within the sport in the annual five-part, 10 Tough Questions feature, running throughout the week.

3. If Dale Earnhardt Jr. struggles again this season, will he ask out of his contract a year early?

It doesn’t appear likely. Earnhardt and Hendrick casually mentioned that contract extension talks — Earnhardt is currently signed through 2012 — were in the near future just one week after the personnel shakeup at HMS that aligned Earnhardt with crew chief Steve Letarte in the new “48/88” shop. While that may be true, it may also be posturing, putting any sponsor’s apprehensions at ease while the company regroups and rolls out a new product in 2011. Any sponsorship negotiations attached to the Earnhardt name take a much more decided effort and additional diligence due to the asking price. Could the pair’s hinting at an early extension actually be step one in luring AMP Energy Drink and the National Guard back? Possibly.

Also, Earnhardt knows the resources currently behind him are unmatched. Hendrick Motorsports is the unquestioned powerhouse in the sport with 10 Cup titles in its trophy case and an all-star lineup that will only get bolstered in 2012 when Kasey Kahne comes on board (and that’s not to mention the relationship with Tony Stewart and his Stewart-Haas Racing operation). Really, it won’t get any better for Junior. Or Hendrick.

Despite three subpar seasons at HMS, Earnhardt brings in over $30 million per year in sponsorship revenue alone. Factor in merchandise sales (of which Hendrick gets a cut) plus over $14 million in winnings over the last three years, and the numbers say Earnhardt — win or lose on the track — is raking in just as much money for Hendrick as his new shopmate.

Still, does a blues jeans and t-shirt Earnhardt fit in a starched white-collar world at Hendrick Motorsports? It certainly doesn’t appear so, but for the time being he’ll remain where he’s at through at least 2012.

4. How will NASCAR’s 20 percent cut in Nationwide Series purse money affect the
series in 2011?

When word came down last August that the Nationwide Series would see a 20 percent cut in purse money this season, jaws dropped. The series, along with the Cup and Truck circuits, suffered from a 10 percent purse reduction prior to 2010, stretching an already thin margin for the lifeblood of the two junior series: the low-budget, independent teams.

Those shoestring-budget teams that fill NASCAR’s fields in the Nationwide and Truck series often depend on purse money to pay the bills, a far cry from the Cup juggernauts that keep the lights on via sponsor dollars, not race earnings.

However, NASCAR’s announced reductions have been made with track operators in mind, not teams. An extended economic downturn has given way to sparse attendance figures and less corporate sponsorship backing for the facilities — many of which are owned by NASCAR’s track operating wing, International Speedway Corp. Therefore, the sanctioning body took the step to slash the purses tracks must pay, while still charging the same sanctioning fee — the money tracks must pay the sanctioning body to host its events. In refusing to accept any less itself, NASCAR has made the decision to hit the teams where it hurts: in the wallet.

What is expected to follow are less-than-full fields in the Nationwide Series, a development that’s been anticipated for some time, but may become a reality as the season’s erratic travel schedule combines with a substantially lighter payday to discourage the small teams — the backbone of the junior circuit — from making a go at a full-time effort. At the same time, Cup drivers’ inability to run for both championships will discourage some from making an appearance in as many NNS events, making for as awkward time to both reduce purse money and encourage smaller teams to market lesser-known (albeit, not less-deserving) drivers.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:11 am
 


Gunnair wrote:
martin14 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Dega been clean last few years.. :)


Ha! Oh aren't you a wit... :evil:



Why, thank you, yes I am :P :P


The next 2 questions are easy.

3. Junior isnt leaving Hendrik, not for a long time.
Not before a couple of championships anyway.
Be interesting to see if Letarte makes a difference, I think the writing is slowly
on the wall for Jeffie.
Exchanging Martin for Kahne wont change much.

4. 20% less money could work as long as there were no changes in rules or designs,
and the 2 other series could run the same setups as last year.
The money spent on R&D is silly, and could use a couple of years off.
Still, its a sign not everything happy in Nascarland.
I would suggest running at smaller tracks to get the costs down, but the fact is
I think they benefit from running the same weekends as the Cup boys.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:09 am
 


martin14 wrote:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:


Dega been clean last few years.. :)


Ha! Oh aren't you a wit... :evil:



Why, thank you, yes I am :P :P


The next 2 questions are easy.

3. Junior isnt leaving Hendrik, not for a long time.
Not before a couple of championships anyway.
Be interesting to see if Letarte makes a difference, I think the writing is slowly
on the wall for Jeffie.
Exchanging Martin for Kahne wont change much.

4. 20% less money could work as long as there were no changes in rules or designs,
and the 2 other series could run the same setups as last year.
The money spent on R&D is silly, and could use a couple of years off.
Still, its a sign not everything happy in Nascarland.
I would suggest running at smaller tracks to get the costs down, but the fact is
I think they benefit from running the same weekends as the Cup boys.


Not so sure about Jr. He'll finish his contract, and maybe even take a year exdtension, but I suspect Hendrick's will give up on him at some point if he doesn't pull it together and win as well as at the least, make the Chase.

They're paying a mountain of money for this guy who is not getting any younger. It's possible his best years are already past him, which means you're paying for the name only. As far as Gordon, he's still got some years left. He's doing quite well and I think moving Letarte is not a subliminal message to Gordon other than maybe, he's good enough to remove his crew chief, but not as important as the Johnson/Knaus pairing.


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