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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:16 am

It probably seems like ancient history to many, but I just came across today a 4 part video posted on Google video in which the now deceased investigative jouralist Gary Webb explains how the US media deep sixed any coverage of the CIA/Contra drug smuggling operation in the Ronnie Reagan era. It's pretty plain that the US media (and the Canadian media as well) know that, when reporting the news, there are lines not to be crossed and boats not to be rocked (that is, if you know what is good for you).

I can't post the links to the video (not enough time on the board yet) but if you go to Google video and do a search for "webb cocaine and the contras" you will pull up the links to the 4 part documentary.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:45 pm

Think about it. Al Qaida pays it's fighters.....they are not patriots but mercenaries. The wisest and logical move is to hire them. $10/day is cheap. Money well spent.

This really ancient history. The Romans striped Hannibal of his auxilliaries in the second Punic War by out bidding the Carthaginians. It works. It's honourable and wise.

Socialism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:35 am

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Think about it. Al Qaida pays it's fighters.....they are not patriots but mercenaries. The wisest and logical move is to hire them. $10/day is cheap. Money well spent.

You might be on to something there.

People join the Talib for a couple reasons, money is one. Pay them more to work on PRTs than they earn trying to kill the PRTs. You won't lure the ones who joined because of jihad, but you would marginalize those religious fighters.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:15 am

I thought this would be another thread about the CBC.



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:21 pm

You are to be applauded for questioning U.S. and canadian foreign policy. After all,
democracy is built on the ability of its members to hold its elected officials accountable. This social contract between governed and governor is necessary and is what holds us all up.


JFK did not bury Jimmy Hoffa under the volley ball pit in Hyannisport.
The Bush and Saud families did not invent oil in the MATRIX.
Harper did not secretly sneak into Afghanistan and make a deal with the Taliban to only shoot at Canadian soldiers on Thursdays.

The world is not built only on lies and deception and the media is not controlling your brain on a daily basis. If it is, then I assume it told you to post here to discredit opposition to its policies.

There are certainly controls in our system by large multinational corporations and governments but it is not pervasive in every moment of every day.

9/11 wasn't faked
neither was the holicaust
neither was the moon landing

Our issues with the middle east (although always blaimed on the U.S) belong in large part to the actions of Britain, France, Russia and the other colonial powers as they attempted to hold on to the great game in the early years of the twentieth century.

Yes, there are radical Muslims just as there is a radical Christian right and many would like to see the end of America because that is what they learned. The issue here is not god however.

The issue is poverty. If millions of young Muslim men and women had hope for a viable economic future, they would not make easy recruiting targets for radicals of any standard.

We do ourselves a diservice when we lay blame on wild and unfounded accusations. We lose credibility when we allow ourselves to be sucked into the void of thoughtless accusation. If you want a world to take a serious look at some issues on here that are need to be addressed on national and international stages, then address it in a logical and educated way. Don't make points with wild conspiracy theories and nonsense - you are merely validating your place on the fringe of discourse.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:23 pm

Do yourself a favor and save yourself the time cutting and pasting conspiracy theories to get a job. Or, if you already have one, work some overtime so you can contribute more to whomever you support.

I am anonymoose!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:38 pm

how does anyone have the time or energy to research and feed into this conspiracy theory stuff?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:57 pm

kathaksung? How about you go back to Freedominion and bother Mark and Connie? K?

You're a screaming nutbar moonbat.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:48 pm

When people are uneasy with the see-through machine in new air-port security inspection, the technique exists more than two decades. I experienced it 18 years ago and wrote about it ten years ago. See "2. Infra-scanner, surveillance behind wall". And that may be the cause that my articles disappeared.

My American nightmare

New high tech weapons such like radiation material, microwave kill people without trace, leaving death look like heart attack, blood cancer, etc.

In 1991, because an acquaintance was arrested for drug smuggling, I was under surveillance by law enforcement agent. They used isotope money as tracer which hurt my health badly. After I complained this I found I was frequently under microwave radiation which cooked my blood, solidified them to form clog, caused severe chest pain. As pressure intensified,I could not bear the torture of EM wave, I went abroad in 1999. There I still was under surveillance of local police. On Mar. 22 2000, attempts of frame me up to a drug case forced me seeking political asylum in Thailand.

What made an U.S. citizen drift abroad and ask for political asylum? The black box practice covered criminal activities of U.S. law enforcement agency. New high tech weapons enable them to murder people without being aware of. To prevent U.S. become a fascist country, an independent organization which can check the conduct of law enforcement agency is necessary.

It was a big case ten years ago.

I was a seller in San Jose Berryessa Flea Market. I sell porcelain figuring. On Sept. 1990, a lady, named Mrs. Chen, came to my stand, saying that she was an importer of porcelain. I bought some merchandise from her because she offered a good price.

On June. 1991, Mrs. Chen was arrested for drug smuggling. The newspaper titled: " Heroin bust called U.S. record".(See San Jose Mercury, 6-21-1991). There was a lot of harassment since then. I was followed, bugged, business turned downward, etc..

1. Psychology intimidation

According to newspaper, the heroin container arrived in on May, 1991. Mrs. Chen was arrested on June 22, 1991 when they opened it. During that one month waiting period, I was stopped by police for three times.

The first time was on Monday, in downtown San Jose. A police car sirened. I stopped, officer came forward, asking me if I knew why he stopped me. I said I did not know. He said that I was speeding. He gave me a ticket after talked to microphone . I didn't argue because I had not notice my speed at that time. But I knew I could not be very fast because it was on 7th Street where the traffic light set for 30 miles. That means if you driving at 30 miles you meet green light all the way, if you past 30, you hit a red light.

Next day was Tuesday, I went to Galt Flea Market early in the morning and arrived there about 6 a.m. The town was still asleep. No people or vehicle in sight. I was stopped by a sirening police car. Same question asked and officer told me I did not stop fully at stop sign. I was very depressing. To my delight, the officer coming back after he talked to microphone, said that he would not give me a ticket.

Within a week, there was a third time. It's inside San Jose Flea Market. Everything repeated. Officer said I was speeding at 15 miles against 5 miles limit. I had worked in Flea Market for 7 years and drove in same way, never had a problem. So did other sellers. The officer smiled at me at last after talked to microphone. Let me go without a ticket. I was so impressed because if they cited me in late two stops, I would have lost my drive license.

Weeks later, Mrs Chen was arrested. Even then I didn't relate two events together. Until about two months late, an article in newspaper touched my mind. It said police sirened signal when a man violated traffic rule. The man did not stop but speeded away in panic. Police searched his car and found drugs. Three times stopped by police within a week happened in time just the heroin container arrived in Mrs. Chen's warehouse. So it was a psychology intimidation test for me. There were many of This kind of harassment late. But compare to isotope money and microwave radiation and fluorescent lamp killing, it's nothing.

2. Infra-scanner, surveillance behind wall

I sell porcelain figuring. After a while, there were quite amount of broken one accumulated. That day, I was sticking the broken part back by using a glue gun. I switched on power so glue stick melted, ready for working. While I was doing my work, my tenant came in to get some food in refrigerator.(I rented out two upstairs bedrooms and shared kitchen with my tenants.) When I worked on second lot, he came again. For the third time, he was rushing down. This rose my attention. I noticed it happened just seconds after I switched on the power. It looked like that was the heat touched off his strange behavior. So I did an experiment. I packed up everything, sitting down, switching on the power of glue gun. Within seconds, he reacted as what I expected. He was embarrassed when he found I was smiling at him and explained that he was hungry. I smiling because I had the feeling a scientist had when making a discovery. The agent found the figure in screen had lit something and thought I was smoking marijuana, order my tenant to check. My tenant, knew nothing about infra-scanner, only reported I was repairing porcelain figuring. None of them was aware of it was caused by an electricity heated glue gun.

Several months later, when I repairing another pile of porcelain, same thing happened again. My tenant felt uneasy as I watching him going up and down. That in last rush down he held an underwear high and explained he was going to wash it.

Later in a newspaper article, a lawyer said it was fascist to use infra-scanner in surveillance. So I know the instrument name. And it is so sensitive that they can use it to discover corpse buried under ground from helicopter. (For the corpse which is just died with residual body temperature)

Infra-scanner can be used to watch people behind wall. If it turns on people, then clothes mean nothing. People become nude. The strange thing is,in a country which is so emphasized on privacy, almost nobody mention it. Media rarely talk about it. Most people even don't know it. In San Jose Mercury News,(Feb 21,2001. pg.18A) there's an article: "Lawyer says police use of Thermal Imagine violates reasonable expectation of privacy" As a matter of fact, they use it 10 years ago already according to my experience. Outwardly, U.S. is a democratic country. Inside, it is tightly controlled by secret police. Although you can easily ridicule President, you rarely hear a voice criticize federal law enforcement agency. Waco is a controversial issue. Many people think FBI's action is murder. What's the result? Nobody takes responsibility. People are intimidated.

3. ISOTOPE MONEY (How agent find cash savings at your home)

I talked about these harassment to people I knew.
A man whom I thought was delivering the word for FBI, said that I should cooperate and suggested me to write check instead of paying cash in trading. I followed his advice. As I didn't go often to the bank, I started to put big notes (100's and 50's) in my left rear pocket of my jeans. Several months later, I couldn't move my left leg. Found the source of pain was at my left hip right beneath the pocket where money kept, I moved the money away and recovered. suspecting it was radioactive money, I stopped to pocket big notes. About 5 months later, my wife planed to visit her parents in China. I started to save money for her trip on my left rear pocket, thinking it wouldn't hurt if just for a short while. But this time, only a few weeks, same thing happened again. I only recovered after taking the money away. Realizing law enforcement agent using radiation material as tracer, which hurt my health badly, I complained but only saw something more serious happened. Microwave radiation is one of them.

By the way, because I am an naturalized U.S. citizen with limit vocabularies, I used word radiation money all the time, until last Sept. I went to Santa Clara D.A.'s office to tell them I worried about a frame up against me. Investigator Tom Johnson used the word 'isotope money'. Then I knew this word. So government knows it. They just deny they use it because it is criminal.

Tracking and wiretapping

At first, I wondered if they would follow me like in movie. Really they did. Different vehicles cross tracking me insistently. And I also noticed that when the original vehicle turned away, the drivers always talked something to a microphone. Then another replacing vehicle soon appeared. After I told this story to other people, I have not seen this scene any more. They bugged my talking and improved their communication. Though I still could identify some vehicles with characters.

4. Burglary and flooding

In San Jose flea market, there were three other people selling same porcelain figuring as me. They are brothers from Viet Nam, named Qian. We bought same merchandise from importer Mao(not Mrs. Chen whom was arrested in drug case).

After drug case happened, the youngest one's house was burglarized. Several thousand dollars cash was stolen. Sometime later, the old brother's house suffered a flooding. The old brother couple was taking a tour in Europe then. The water pipe inside the house broken, and walls soaking in water for days and at last collapsed. Insurance company paid the damage. 'What a curious coincidence.' I thought.'The water pipe broke when people are in vacation.' At this time, I found law enforcement agent use isotope money. So I thought Qian brothers, too, are the victims of law enforcement agent. If so, there should be a third time for young brother.

As I expected, he was hit twice. First, his merchandise was stolen. Then, he had a flood in his house too. He seemed knew it was not a coincidence. Said:'It's all right, anyway, I got a new carpet from Insurance company.'

From my opinion then, government commit more crime than anyone else. And people have to pay the cost. At least they have to pay more insurance fee.

5. Microwave killing

At that time, each Tuesday I went to Galt flea Market which took two hours' driving to get there. I was very sick after driving. I felt dizziness, hot and thirsty. Sometimes there was a chest pain. At first I didn't relate it to driving because chest pain always happened hours later after driving. I worried the new symptoms, but knew nothing what caused it. I noticed an article in newspaper said FBI Lab developed new technique of using microwave as a weapon.

Then in a Tuesday, I was very sick on my way home that I stopped driving for a while. That night, when I was watching TV, my neighbor, an old Taiwaness lady, visited us with a woman. When I turned my sight from TV to them, I found the woman was watching me too. Just at that moment, a severe chest pain attacked me. With eye to eye, I was suddenly aware of it was microwave that sickened me so much. There was no side window on my cargo van, and thus it acted as a microwave oven. After two hours slow cooking (low radiation of microwave), I felt hot and thirsty and the blood cell would die and gradually solidify to form clot, when the clot moving to the heart, a heart attack happened. The procedure took a few hours. It solved another question in my mind. I used to arrive home at 5 pm. At night, I watched eight o'clock's TV. My neighbor always visited us at this time. Puzzled me that "Why she always harasses us at this golden time? She should be more interested in Chinese series than me." Now I knew she was sent to see the result of microwave experiment, to see a heart attack. Next day I went to a metal shop and bought metal sheet to shield the engine cover and instrument panel. It worked. I didn't feel hot and dizziness any more. So when I felt headache at night, I used metal sheet to cover me while I slept.

The condition lasted until 1999 when it became worse. During daytime when I was home alone, I had severe headache and toothache which at last forced me left U.S. on March, 1999.

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