[BartSimpson]

https://www.breitbart.com/big-governmen ... itutional/

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Ninth Circuit Rules Openly Carrying Firearm in Public Is Constitutional

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled Tuesday that openly carrying a firearm in public is constitutional.
The ruling, issued by a three-judge panel, is a rebuttal to Hawaii’s claim that Second Amendment protections only applied to carrying a gun openly in one’s home.

Reuters reports that the case was brought by George Young, after Hawaiian official “twice [denied] him a permit to carry a gun outside.” A District Court ruled that the denial did not infringe rights protected by the Second Amendment, but the Ninth Circuit panel disagreed.

Ninth Circuit Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain wrote, “We do not take lightly the problem of gun violence. But, for better or for worse, the Second Amendment does protect a right to carry a firearm in public for self-defense.”

The ruling for the constitutionality of openly carrying a firearm in public comes a week to the day after a Ninth Circuit panel upheld the ruling which blocked California’s “high capacity” magazine ban.

Both rulings can be appealed for the Ninth Circuit to hear en banc. After that, the next stop for either ruling would be the Supreme Court of the United States.

The Ninth Circuit is the MOST liberal court in the USA and if they're saying that open carry is a right then it's going to be damned near impossible to ban open carry in the future!

[BartSimpson]

Funny comment from elsewhere:

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And, lo, the rivers shall run red as blood,
locusts shall blot out the Sun,
and the 9th Circuit shall uphold the Second Amendment.
- Breaking of the Seventh Seal, Verse 22

[CharlesAnthony]

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Reuters reports that the case was brought by George Young, after Hawaiian official “twice [denied] him a permit to carry a gun outside.” A District Court ruled that the denial did not infringe rights protected by the Second Amendment, but the Ninth Circuit panel disagreed.

What happened? What exactly was denied?
I am trying to reconstruct the scene in such a way that the denial of a permit to carry a gun outside arises.

George asks for a permit. The Hawaiian official says: "We have 2 types of permits: permits to carry a gun inside and permits to carry a gun outside which we do not permit. Which type do you want?" Is that how it played out?

[BartSimpson]

CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:

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Reuters reports that the case was brought by George Young, after Hawaiian official “twice [denied] him a permit to carry a gun outside.” A District Court ruled that the denial did not infringe rights protected by the Second Amendment, but the Ninth Circuit panel disagreed.

What happened? What exactly was denied?
I am trying to reconstruct the scene in such a way that the denial of a permit to carry a gun outside arises.

George asks for a permit. The Hawaiian official says: "We have 2 types of permits: permits to carry a gun inside and permits to carry a gun outside which we do not permit. Which type do you want?" Is that how it played out?

Pretty much. Hawaii makes it all but impossible to comply with their gun laws and that constitutes an illegal ban.

Also, the right to carry a gun in the USA can be regulated by a state BUT the 9th Circuit had previously ruled that if a state onerously restricts one right to carry - like to carry concealed - then they have to allow the right to carry openly.

They don't get to restrict both.

[CharlesAnthony]

So, they have 2 types of licenses for sale on their shelves?
1 that is for sale
and
1 that is not for sale

That makes no sense. There has got to be more to this story that is not being told.

[BartSimpson]

CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:

So, they have 2 types of licenses for sale on their shelves?
1 that is for sale
and
1 that is not for sale

That makes no sense. There has got to be more to this story that is not being told.

Per Wiki on Hawaiian carry laws:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Hawaii

[BartSimpson]

The US Supreme Court ruled that a state can limit concealed carry OR they can limit open carry but they can't essentially prohibit both.

People have a right to defend themselves and that right doesn't disappear just because the state is run by Democrats.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Funny comment from elsewhere:

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And, lo, the rivers shall run red as blood,
locusts shall blot out the Sun,
and the 9th Circuit shall uphold the Second Amendment.
- Breaking of the Seventh Seal, Verse 22

Pretty accurate description id you ask me.

[CharlesAnthony]

Thanks, Bart. This is how I am understanding it all:
In Hawai, the issuance of permits is/was always up to the discretion of the issuer. The US Constitution was never respected by the statesmen.

Have I got it right?

[BartSimpson]

CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:

Thanks, Bart. This is how I am understanding it all:
In Hawai, the issuance of permits is/was always up to the discretion of the issuer. The US Constitution was never respected by the statesmen.

Have I got it right?

Spot on my friend!

[CharlesAnthony]

Do the issuers at least take money under the table?