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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:07 pm
 


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I seldom listen to Ed Schultz. Life is too short, and I have Starbucks cake-pops to eat.

But recently he called conservative radio host Laura Ingraham a slut on the air. His exact words were, “this right-wing slut, what’s her name?, Laura Ingraham? Yeah, she’s a talk slut.” As Mediaite points out, “talk slut” in no way improves on the phrase “right-wing slut.”

And in general, calling people sluts is not a good idea, even in the sense that one sometimes calls people cabs — “Oh, it’s past 8:00 p.m.; we should contact Mark.”

And if you want to be taken seriously, don’t use slurs in your political discourse. True, who wants to be taken seriously now? All we want is viewers and listeners. “I advise you strongly to land on the sun,” we say, racistly, donning capes that reveal our manly or womanly endowments and allowing people to hit us in the face with pies on our book covers. Anything for our Public!

But besides the general degradation of discourse, there’s more at work here. Why would he pick this word in the first place?

Slut is not a gender-neutral term, yet. In spite of all the Slut Walks proclaiming that You Can Do What You Want And Wear What You Want And Society Shall Not Label You — which, really, didn’t anyone think this through beforehand? (“We’re going on a slut walk,” you say. “Oh, that’s nice,” your employer says. “Boy, when you bring them home, you really have no sense of the amount of care, feeding, and walking that’s required.”)

But in defense of the walks, there’s got to be some way to drive the point home. So far, it’s not working: If this is a misogynistic term, then it’s a term that’s somehow reserved for women. And that’s a deeply misogynistic thought.

This term is either used too much or not enough, depending upon whom you ask. I’d be fine with tossing it around with wild abandon if we called men like Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Edwards sluts as well. Their behavior merits the term! But generally when it gets flung at men, there’s “man-” appended to it. Slut? Must be female. There’s no equally fraught term for a man who, er, bed-hops. Bed hops just sounds like a fun party activity — which, admittedly, it might be, in certain circles. And that’s wrong.

“But Ingraham and Ann Coulter both have this strange blonde-conservative-women-who-are-definitely-wearing-heels thing going on!” you cry. “Doesn’t that entitle me to --”

No, of course not.

And even were the word cut free of the misogynistic baggage, it doesn’t belong in the context of civilized political discourse — or what passes for it on the Ed Schultz Show.

If you are attacking someone’s politics, no need to be ad hominem, or ad womanem. Just make your case.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/com ... _blog.html

I can't bring myself to watch political TV anymore.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:12 pm
 


They're all media/attention whores anyway.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:51 pm
 


Who is this ed guy and why should I care?


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Typical of most of the creatures in the 24/7/365 cable news/hate radio "information" machinery. Seriously, these bozos relentlessly attacking each other is really beneath anyone paying any attention to it. It's all just extremely juvenile one-upsmanship in order to boost ratings.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:09 pm
 


it's funny how we used to ridicule the Jerry Springer and Morton Downey types....now they seem to have become political pundits.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:18 pm
 


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Who is this ed guy and why should I care?


Apparently some retard down south we're supposed to give some kind of shit about because he slammed someone else we're supposed to give a shit about. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:22 pm
 


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Who is this ed guy and why should I care?


Apparently some retard down south we're supposed to give some kind of shit about because he slammed someone else we're supposed to give a shit about. :roll:

If you don't want to talk about U.S. politics don't come to the U.S. politics section of CKA.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:24 pm
 


DanSC wrote:
Gunnair wrote:
Scape wrote:
Who is this ed guy and why should I care?


Apparently some retard down south we're supposed to give some kind of shit about because he slammed someone else we're supposed to give a shit about. :roll:

If you don't want to talk about U.S. politics don't come to the U.S. politics section of CKA.


I'm clearly here to talk about it, and that may mean wondering why one should give a shit about it. n'est ce pas?


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:11 pm
 


BTW, Schultz apologized for the remarks tonight and MSNBC gave him a one-week suspension. Which is markedly different from the way that the same situation would have been handled at FOX, i.e. whoever said something similiar would have been given a whopping raise and a two-year contract extension.

BTW again, we do have people like this in Canada too. Start with Heather Malick or Ezra Levant and it's basically an identical roller-coaster ride through the same sort of slime that the American pundits all apparently love to wallow in.


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Thanos wrote:
Typical of most of the creatures in the 24/7/365 cable news/hate radio "information" machinery. Seriously, these bozos relentlessly attacking each other is really beneath anyone paying any attention to it. It's all just extremely juvenile one-upsmanship in order to boost ratings.



Dude you hit the nail on the head! Sometimes I wonder why you are working in the oil industry at all! With your political insight, and 20/20 vision of politics in North America, you could easily have a talk radio or internet blog space dedicated to North American politics! Its not ass kissing on my part. I disagree with 60% 0f what you say just because my economic beliefs are exreme right. I disagree with 95% OF what MSNBC states every day, but I never miss an episode of: The ED show,hardball, the last word,or the Rachel Maddow show. Agree or disagree, I owe it to myself to keep up on all points of veiw. I disagree with Jon Stewart, and Steve Colbert on thier politcs, I would never dream of missing one of thier shows. I firmly believe that these are two of the best comedies on tv today.{ I would admit this to the Neilson raters if asked}. But enough fluff, whats keeping you from getting paid to do your one true love? Obviously you care about North American politics. I will admit that you are good,and entertaining at it as well. Why do you you keep working in an industry that you seem to feel lukewarm at best about?


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:06 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
BTW, Schultz apologized for the remarks tonight and MSNBC gave him a one-week suspension. Which is markedly different from the way that the same situation would have been handled at FOX, i.e. whoever said something similiar would have been given a whopping raise and a two-year contract extension.

BTW again, we do have people like this in Canada too. Start with Heather Malick or Ezra Levant and it's basically an identical roller-coaster ride through the same sort of slime that the American pundits all apparently love to wallow in.


At least he apologised. And you're totally right about FOX.

I expect now FOX will go on for weeks about the evil liberals and how awful they are to poor widdle conservatives.


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