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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:35 pm
 


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU&eurl=http://www.crooksandliars.com/[/youtube]
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This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should’ve been authorized and never should’ve been waged, and we want to talk about how we’ll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.

I would not be running for President if I didn’t believe with all my heart that this is what the vast majority of Americans want for this country. This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected. And today, whenever I find myself feeling doubtful or cynical about this possibility, what gives me the most hope is the next generation - the young people whose attitudes and beliefs and openness to change have already made history in this election.

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Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

But I have asserted a firm conviction - a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people - that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.


IMHO the best speech of 08.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:54 pm
 


Considering I haven't listened to many speeches in the third month of this year. I can't really argue. That being said I'm not impressed by the transcript


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:08 am
 


Do you think McCain will be able to match with a speech about Hagee? He came out and addressed the issue head on in terms that were concise and that was unexpected. Hillary is toast if Obamas message can not be squelched.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:49 am
 


Looks like Canada will be leaving the war then? If U.S. retreats from its own waged war. What point would Canada have in staying? Expecially if U.S. gives Canada that additional troops they requested for to stay in Afghanistan.


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I don't know if war will ever be far from the US but the tempo can not be sustained at the current rate. The economy is going to draw more concern. Perhaps they should ask Russia for help?


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Indeed, I never thought Russia would ever recover from what the U.S. did to them. I mean all the citizens in Russia only wanted jean pants, and none of them could even afford a pair. Now they have bounced back to a good economy.


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Indeed, I never thought Russia would ever recover from what the U.S. did to them. I mean all the citizens in Russia only wanted jean pants, and none of them could even afford a pair. Now they have bounced back to a good economy.


And what numbers have you looked at to say the Russian econmy is good? Half of the people are starving and drunk.


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The speech delfected the main point that his mentor is a racist!


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Wright could not have taken up so huge a space in Obama’s life unless Obama had let Wright in. And Obama let Wright in because of Wright’s sermons, not in spite of them. Obama may not have agreed with Wright’s solutions, or even with his final judgements, but something about Wright’s anger had to have attracted Obama–had to have seemed tantalizingly “authentic.” From the beginning, Obama had to have been sufficiently attracted to Wright’s excesses to forgive them. Then he sought to draw closer. In this positive attraction to anti-American anger (even if that anger is not quite entirely shared) Obama embodies the sensibilities of the elite academic radicals that are his real heritage and milieu.


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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Indeed, I never thought Russia would ever recover from what the U.S. did to them. I mean all the citizens in Russia only wanted jean pants, and none of them could even afford a pair. Now they have bounced back to a good economy.


And what numbers have you looked at to say the Russian econmy is good? Half of the people are starving and drunk.


I never meant it as good as in U.S. Economy good, I meant it as compared to what they use to be. It is a good economy.

Also it is not easy to go from dead poor where none of your citizens can even afford a pair of jeans to having what they got now. Of course there is going to be still poor, starving and what does drunk got to do with economy?

Canada has poor, and starving. Some Canadians can afford either a home or food. Cant afford both. Same with America, and same with every other country. Every country has there poor, starving and drunks.


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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
The speech delfected the main point that his mentor is a racist!

And his 80 year old white Grandma isn't?

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Obama may not have agreed with Wright’s solutions, or even with his final judgements, but something about Wright’s anger had to have attracted Obama–had to have seemed tantalizingly “authentic.”

What lead you to think that it was the anger that drew Obama?

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
In this positive attraction to anti-American anger (even if that anger is not quite entirely shared) Obama embodies the sensibilities of the elite academic radicals that are his real heritage and milieu.


Makes about as much sense as saying McCain is stringently anti-Catholic because he has not rejected Hagee's endorsement outright. Sorry, your getting rabid and trying to paint too much with one brush of anti-Americanism. Something you have a history on this board of doing.

He did address the root cause of the anger and he shows a deeper understanding of it, not an infatuation for it.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:08 pm
 


I think we should always believe the things political candidates say. They speak from the heart and tell you what they really believe.
If only one of them was clever enough to get a really good speech writer instead of writing thier own speeches... then they could dupe us all by making outrageous promises and claims which would make them popular with the people but be impossible to fulfill....
I'm glad all of these candidates are genuine.....

sar·casm /ˈsɑrkæzəm/ –noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.
[Origin: 1570–80; < LL sarcasmus < Gk sarkasmós, deriv. of sarkázein to rend (flesh), sneer; see sarco-]


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:26 pm
 


No shit really? I would like to see the tempo of the 24 hour 'news' channels have something more than glib analysis and a current affair type insight on issues. How about that? Did you even think that the reason why any such genuine heartfelt speeches from the candidates are all but squelched because of the fear that such a moment of vulnerability would be exploited into yet another 'Dean Scream'? Perhaps it is time to hold that nonsense to account instead of applauding it.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:32 pm
 


It was a great speech only brought about by Fox news's 24/7 loop of Wright's outbursts. The only way the GOP will win is if they swiftboat his ass like this. I am so glad that that style of politics doesn't exist here, but like all else we probably will follow suit.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:01 am
 


Scape Scape:
Do you think McCain will be able to match with a speech about Hagee? He came out and addressed the issue head on in terms that were concise and that was unexpected. Hillary is toast if Obamas message can not be squelched.


Hilly has pulled even with Oh Bama. He dropped in the standings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

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