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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:31 am
 


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NATO has been taking advantage of the United States for decades and when they're called on it the Loony Left loses their minds.


Trump is on tv now, looks like the 2% targets will be on a faster timeline


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 am
 


Yesterday Trump told the media that the NATO member countries had agreed to increase spending (which wasn't really true) and dumbass Macron walked right into that trap and said that France had NOT agreed to increase spending.

Which means France has now admitted that they have no intention to meet their 2% commitment.

Now Trump is free to go to Congress and request cuts in US spending on NATO defense.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:44 am
 


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Which means France has now admitted that they have no intention to meet their 2% commitment.
There never was an agreement for the 2% commitment either. This is American theater.

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Now Trump is free to go to Congress and request cuts in US spending on NATO defense.
That was the plan all along.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:53 am
 


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Now Trump is free to go to Congress and request cuts in US spending on NATO defense.


Once again, that's not how it works. You don't 'pay into' NATO.


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DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
Now Trump is free to go to Congress and request cuts in US spending on NATO defense.


Once again, that's not how it works. You don't 'pay into' NATO.


Wonder what the odds are that the required "pay ins" will be routed through the Trump Organization? "Don't worry, the money will get there.....eventually". :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:29 am
 


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Trump is on tv now, looks like the 2% targets will be on a faster timeline


The signed statement literally confirms that the original timeline will remain, at the original targets, and that they will remain as "guidelines" only, not hard fixed targets.

I am, quite frankly, a bit confused by both sides media narratives, when the document is already posted online for anyone to check on their own.

From this summit, not one thing has changed, but both sides are talking like a monumental shift has happened in their favour.


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martin14 wrote:
Trump is on tv now, looks like the 2% targets will be on a faster timeline


The signed statement literally confirms that the original timeline will remain, at the original targets, and that they will remain as "guidelines" only, not hard fixed targets.

I am, quite frankly, a bit confused by both sides media narratives, when the document is already posted online for anyone to check on their own.

From this summit, not one thing has changed, but both sides are talking like a monumental shift has happened in their favour.

Politicians and Media demonstrating they aren't competent to wipe their own ass?

Colour me surprised. /s


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:52 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
Now Trump is free to go to Congress and request cuts in US spending on NATO defense.


Once again, that's not how it works. You don't 'pay into' NATO.


We keep about 60,000 troops in Europe along with payrolls for about 100,000 support personnel (mostly locals) and we spend about $40bn per year on logistical support for our bases and personnel in Europe.

That makes for about $52bn a year we spend in Europe.

If we were a European country our spending in Europe would only be behind that of the UK at $55bn.

So, yes, we do pay into NATO.


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You pay to project US power, save the bullshit for the less educated...I mean other Americans.


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^ This





We are witnessing the death throes of the petrodollar hegemony. Americans be like: "Nobody saw THIS coming."


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peck420 wrote:
You pay to project US power, save the bullshit for the less educated...I mean other Americans.


Then I will support projecting a lot less power.


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Then I will support projecting a lot less power.


You can support whatever aspirations you want. Just stop expecting others to pay for your aspirations because you can't convince them it is in their best interests anymore.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:07 am
 


peck420 wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
Then I will support projecting a lot less power.


You can support whatever aspirations you want. Just stop expecting others to pay for your aspirations because you can't convince them it is in their best interests anymore.


How is the US reducing its budget in Europe forcing someone else to pay for us being in Europe?

We'll just leave.

After all, we've been there since 1944 and it's time to bring the troops home.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:08 am
 


Nice back peddle.

Who's leader just ran around NATO demanding more money?

If it wasn't about the money, your fool wouldn't be making all of you look retarded on the global stage.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:16 am
 


peck420 wrote:
Nice back peddle.

Who's leader just ran around NATO demanding more money?

If it wasn't about the money, your fool wouldn't be making all of you look retarded on the global stage.


Trump is asking these people to pay more for their own defense. He's not asking for them to pay the US anything.

Nice spin attempt.

But you failed.


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