[Regina]

Xort Xort:

Regina Regina:

Only when it affects privacy of the victim or child.

That's one aspect but hardly the only reason.

Gomery Inquiry banned publication of 3 witness's testimony which has nothing to do with children or the victim.

We were speaking of a video recording........try to keep up.

[BartSimpson]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Don't trip backing up.

You posted this article. You support this point of view. You've made that clear over and over again.

Keep posting your sensational, anti-cop bullshit....because that's all it is.

Oh, I do support the point of view. But it was fun drawing you out to tacitly admit that you want these stories suppressed.

And since you think that cops who murder people under color of authority is something that should be kept sekret I know an agency where your ideas would fit in just fine.

http://www.yolocountysheriff.com/join/employment/

[OnTheIce]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oh, I do support the point of view. But it was fun drawing you out to tacitly admit that you want these stories suppressed.

And since you think that cops who murder people under color of authority is something that should be kept sekret I know an agency where your ideas would fit in just fine.

http://www.yolocountysheriff.com/join/employment/

I've never said I want the stories suppressed. Not once.

I'll break it down for you because you're having a hard time.

You post these articles all the time because you're very anti-cop and you'd love us to believe that these stories are common when in fact, that's not true at all.

Police misconduct deserves to be published but don't try to sell us on your anti-cop agenda...making it out like there's an "epidemic". Some of us are smart enough to see through your bullshit and know cops do a lot more good than they do bad.

[Xort]

Regina Regina:

We were speaking of a video recording........try to keep up.

What does that have to do with anything? If the judge says publication ban then that's it until and unless another judge says no that's wrong.

And publication bans are not only for children and to protect victims. Like you incorrectly stated.

[Regina]

Xort Xort:

Regina Regina:

We were speaking of a video recording........try to keep up.

What does that have to do with anything? If the judge says publication ban then that's it until and unless another judge says no that's wrong.

And publication bans are not only for children and to protect victims. Like you incorrectly stated.

$1:

That's one aspect but hardly the only reason.

Gomery Inquiry banned publication of 3 witness's testimony which has nothing to do with children or the victim.

Hidden justice is not justice.

No.....the example you presented was witnesses and not evidence. You understand the difference don't you??

[Xort]

Regina Regina:

No.....the example you presented was witnesses and not evidence. You understand the difference don't you??

How's the goal post moving business?

You made a stupid statement and were called out on it, why can't you admit you were wrong?

$1:

Only when it affects privacy of the victim or child.

Has become; 'What a witness says can be subject to a media publication ban without being required to be due to the protections offered to a minor or victim.

And this fact disproves your early statement that courts can enact publication bans at the whim of the judge. Because... reasons.'

[Public_Domain]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

And yet, there's no clear data to support your claim either....police shootings are far from the epidemic you'd like us to beleive.

Let's use 2008 as an example, shall we?

40 million police interactions with the public in your Country.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp08.pdf

Some sources peg the number of police shootings around 400, such as:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... one-knows/

$1:

Several independent trackers, primarily journalists and academics who study criminal justice, insist the accurate number of people shot and killed by police officers each year is consistently upwards of 1,000 each year.

Others have that number between 500-1000 per year. So let's take that number from above (400) and double it to 800 police shootings per year.

If we use 800 as an example, shootings occur in 0.002% of police interactions with 98+% of them being justified. Hardly an epidemic.

Some crackhead shot a soldier in Ottawa last week. Everybody lost their minds. If that's a big deal, why wouldn't several hundred murders a year be?

Very Stalinist I must say, reducing people to statistics.

[OnTheIce]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Some crackhead shot a soldier in Ottawa last week. Everybody lost their minds. If that's a big deal, why wouldn't several hundred murders a year be?

Very Stalinist I must say, reducing people to statistics.

That's because it wasn't just a murder, it was a terrorist attack.

$1:

Zehaf-Bibeau referenced Canada’s foreign policy, as well as his Muslim faith, in the video – including a remark about Allah.

Why you and others deny the truth is beyond me. The guy is was terrorist that happened to have a drug problem.

[Jabberwalker]

The obvious answer it that you have to be a sick bastard to become a terrorist in the first place. That seems to be pretty straight forward.

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The guy is was terrorist that happened to have a drug problem.

The evidence seems to say the opposite. He had a drug problem long before he converted to Islam. Then it took him a while to become radicalized while hoping Islam would help him with the drug problem, only to find it didn't, pleading with judges to lock him up, hoping he would get help. This guy is an example of the failure of the health system to adequately treat drug addiction. When a guy asks to be locked up because of a drug problem, he should immediately be offered long term rehab if they're not going to lock him up.

[Regina]

Xort Xort:

Regina Regina:

No.....the example you presented was witnesses and not evidence. You understand the difference don't you??

How's the goal post moving business?

You made a stupid statement and were called out on it, why can't you admit you were wrong?

$1:

Only when it affects privacy of the victim or child.

Has become; 'What a witness says can be subject to a media publication ban without being required to be due to the protections offered to a minor or victim.

And this fact disproves your early statement that courts can enact publication bans at the whim of the judge. Because... reasons.'

I must agree with the rest of the members. You're too stupid to argue with.
**Taps Out**

[Public_Domain]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Some crackhead shot a soldier in Ottawa last week. Everybody lost their minds. If that's a big deal, why wouldn't several hundred murders a year be?

Very Stalinist I must say, reducing people to statistics.

That's because it wasn't just a murder, it was a terrorist attack.

$1:

Zehaf-Bibeau referenced Canada’s foreign policy, as well as his Muslim faith, in the video – including a remark about Allah.

Why you and others deny the truth is beyond me. The guy is was terrorist that happened to have a drug problem.

Terrorist schmerrorist, if one death at the hands of another man warrants national outcry, why not hundreds? Reasons and intentions don't make a person any less dead, and it doesn't make a family any less devestated.

[Xort]

Regina Regina:

I must agree with the rest of the members. You're too stupid to argue with.
**Taps Out**

This is what I enjoy about this forum, the quality of the debate is so low that it's liking paying on easy mode with cheats on.

[OnTheIce]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Terrorist schmerrorist, if one death at the hands of another man warrants national outcry, why not hundreds? Reasons and intentions don't make a person any less dead, and it doesn't make a family any less devestated.

Did the other few hundred kill random military personnel for religious and radical reasons? If not, try to compare apples to apples if you want a fair comparison.

[Public_Domain]

I believe the life of a random asshole at McDonalds is equal to the life of a random person on a bus is equal to the life of a soldier is equal to the life of a politician.

I refuse to rate how much a person's life was worth based on how much the media will sensationalize one form of murder over another. the comparison remains fair.