[xerxes]

From New York Magazine by David Frum. As in "Axis of evil" David Frum.

http://nymag.com/news/politics/conservatives-david-frum-2011-11

Quote:

The Bush years cannot be repudiated, but the memory of them can be discarded to make way for a new and more radical ideology, assembled from bits of the old GOP platform that were once sublimated by the party elites but now roam the land freely: ultralibertarianism, crank monetary theories, populist fury, and paranoid visions of a Democratic Party controlled by ACORN and the New Black Panthers. For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP. Yet it’s telling that that movement has failed time and again to produce even a remotely credible candidate for president. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich: The list of tea-party candidates reads like the early history of the U.S. space program, a series of humiliating fizzles and explosions that never achieved liftoff. A political movement that never took governing seriously was exploited by a succession of political entrepreneurs uninterested in governing—but all too interested in merchandising. Much as viewers tune in to American Idol to laugh at the inept, borderline dysfunctional early auditions, these tea-party champions provide a ghoulish type of news entertainment each time they reveal that they know nothing about public affairs and have never attempted to learn. But Cain’s gaffe on Libya or Perry’s brain freeze on the Department of Energy are not only indicators of bad leadership. They are indicators of a crisis of followership. The tea party never demanded knowledge or concern for governance, and so of course it never got them.

[raydan]

[BartSimpson]

David Frum wrote:

For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP.

Bu11$hi+.

For the past three and a half years the media has dog-piled on Sarah Palin and then called the Tea Party every name under the sun ansd when Gabrielle Giffords got shot the same media instantly blamed both Palin and the Tea Party for the shooting well before they knew any actual facts.

This guy is just another RINO like Karl Rove.

[DanSC]

Scholars will always debate if the Democrats or the GOP lost their minds first.



Though earlier this year, Obama tried to open a locked door, as Bush so famously did in China. It wasn't seen as that big of a deal, because it's not that big of a deal.

[Zipperfish]

Sorry, let me see if I can get this straight, Dan. Your response to the argument by Mr. Frum--essentially that the proposed Republican leaders thrown up by the Tea Party seems like ideological populists wit limited credibility to govern--is to post a vidoe of Barack Obama trying ot open a door. Toodle along now and let the big boys play.

[fifeboy]

It was in July, 1980. Somewhere between the 14th and the 17th inclusive.

[PluggyRug]

In answer to the thread title....about the same time as the Democrats.

[xerxes]

BartSimpson wrote:

David Frum wrote:

For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP.

Bu11$hi+.

For the past three and a half years the media has dog-piled on Sarah Palin and then called the Tea Party every name under the sun ansd when Gabrielle Giffords got shot the same media instantly blamed both Palin and the Tea Party for the shooting well before they knew any actual facts.

This guy is just another RINO like Karl Rove.

And I call BS on your BS. Have you watched CNN lately? (If you haven't I don't blame you though) They've all but become the Tea Party news channel, when they do actual news that is.

[Lemmy]

DanSC wrote:

Though earlier this year, Obama tried to open a locked door, as Bush so famously did in China. It wasn't seen as that big of a deal, because it's not that big of a deal.

OMG, Blackie McBlack can't open a locked door. If there's one thing we should expect of a black president it's the ability to break into places.

[Scape]

I'm sorry, they had been in touch with reality?

[Jack Phast]

I'm pretty certain no political party (Republican otherwise, American or otherwise) was ever in touch with reality.

[DanSC]

Lemmy wrote:

DanSC wrote:

Though earlier this year, Obama tried to open a locked door, as Bush so famously did in China. It wasn't seen as that big of a deal, because it's not that big of a deal.

OMG, Blackie McBlack can't open a locked door. If there's one thing we should expect of a black president it's the ability to break into places.

I thought it wasn't that big of a deal, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.

Also, why are we shocked that New York Magazine is questioning the intelligence of the GOP? Next week, will we be shocked that Rachel Maddow doesn't like Newt Gingrich, or Glenn Beck doesn't like liberals?

[sandorski]

DanSC wrote:

Lemmy wrote:

DanSC wrote:

Though earlier this year, Obama tried to open a locked door, as Bush so famously did in China. It wasn't seen as that big of a deal, because it's not that big of a deal.

OMG, Blackie McBlack can't open a locked door. If there's one thing we should expect of a black president it's the ability to break into places.

I thought it wasn't that big of a deal, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.

Also, why are we shocked that New York Magazine is questioning the intelligence of the GOP? Next week, will we be shocked that Rachel Maddow doesn't like Newt Gingrich, or Glenn Beck doesn't like liberals?

This is far from just political motivation. The GOP is just batshit crazy these days.

[commanderkai]

xerxes wrote:

And I call BS on your BS. Have you watched CNN lately? (If you haven't I don't blame you though) They've all but become the Tea Party news channel, when they do actual news that is.

I'm pretty sure you're confusing the Tea Party to the OWS movement. Actually, I'm quite sure, because CNN had very little positive Tea Party coverage that I remember.

[DanSC]

commanderkai wrote:

xerxes wrote:

And I call BS on your BS. Have you watched CNN lately? (If you haven't I don't blame you though) They've all but become the Tea Party news channel, when they do actual news that is.

I'm pretty sure you're confusing the Tea Party to the OWS movement. Actually, I'm quite sure, because CNN had very little positive Tea Party coverage that I remember.

CNN is actually trying to be an objective news network, so they'll do stories on Tea Party rallies and Occupy Wall Street rallies, as both are somewhat newsworthy.

Of course, very very few people actually watch the totality of CNN's programming. As such, if a Tea Party sympathizer sees a story on Occupy Wall Street, they'll think that CNN is unabashedly left-wing, and vise versa.