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Author: | Lemmy [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why Ontario's cheap hydro was too good to be true |
Thanos Thanos: What was the real reason that those plants were cancelled, aside from what looks like everyone being really fucking stupid at the same time? Too many idiots all listening at once to some bullshit environmentalist horror story about a plant exploding or fumes killing everyone's kids? Shit, if you fall for that kind of crap from those liars, especially over something as proven to be safe as gas-generated electrical, then you deserve to have your utility rates skyrocket. Exactly. Which is why the people of Mississauga and Oakville ought to have been told, as I said earlier, "If you don't want the power plant in your own community, then go buy fucking candles." |
Author: | Thanos [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why Ontario's cheap hydro was too good to be true |
Gas prices collapsed years ago. Set aside the cost of the gas pipelines to the new plants and Ontario would have saved billions over time on a commodity that's now cheaper to transport via pipeline than coal via railcar is. Some are bitching here in AB about the Dippers wanting to take the coal-burning electrical plants offline because it will cost more in the short run. I'm not one of those because in the long run, just from stopping coal-derived pollution alone, it's the right idea and should have been done long ago, like when the gas price went down to basement rates. Apparently no one in Ontario was willing to be the adult in the room on this issue because one stupid decision made to placate some whiners looks from this part of the world to be nothing but a massive fiscal disaster. |
Author: | OnTheIce [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why Ontario's cheap hydro was too good to be true |
Lemmy Lemmy: Okay, I'll buy that, in this instance. Would you concede, however, that there may circumstances when it would be right for the government to, at the last minute, finally listen to the citizens of a particular riding and come to their "rescue" to do their bidding after years of vocal opposition to a government plan? I honestly don't think major projects should be cancelled mid-election. It's just too big of a decision to make over coffee in the campaign office. Lemmy Lemmy: And the real villain in this case is the long-standing practice of government giving contractors outrageously generous cancellation penalties. I understand that business contracted to do work should receive some compensation should a project be altered or cancelled. But the numbers around this cancellation are outrageous. If there's a single thing that this incident ought to say to us, it's that, going forward, there should be significant limitation on the compensation that contractors can demand in circumstances such as this. A bunch of companies lining their pockets, at tax payer expense, for work not done is simply unacceptable in this fiscal climate. Agreed. |
Author: | Lemmy [ Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why Ontario's cheap hydro was too good to be true |
OnTheIce OnTheIce: I honestly don't think major projects should be cancelled mid-election. It's just too big of a decision to make over coffee in the campaign office. Fair enough. |
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