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Author:  Thanos [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kathleen Wynne is surrendering on equalization payments
Even the nicest person in the world can do untold damage. Path of good intentions, and all that. I'm far from being any kind of Austerity Hero but, holy fuck, I can't see any justification at all for the hole McGuinty and now Wynne have put good ol' ONT into. That debt will never ever be paid. It's impossible, and it has the potential to shatter the entire national economy if it results in some kind of a default someday. What's the answer from the provincial Libs going to be if that happens?
Author:  martin14 [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:39 pm ]
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Thanos Thanos:
What's the answer from the provincial Libs going to be if that happens?



Federal bailout.

Trudope will pay for all. Or, rather, taxpayers will.
Author:  Thanos [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:45 pm ]
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Something like that would split the country. Everyone chipping in a few billion to save the auto industry and it's jobs was one thing. Bailing out a provincial political party that deliberately put itself in this position with idiotic shit like it's fucked up utility system and over-hiring provincial employees in order to secure it's unionized voting base is something else altogether.
Author:  BeaverFever [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kathleen Wynne is surrendering on equalization payments
Thanos Thanos:
Even the nicest person in the world can do untold damage. Path of good intentions, and all that. I'm far from being any kind of Austerity Hero but, holy fuck, I can't see any justification at all for the hole McGuinty and now Wynne have put good ol' ONT into. That debt will never ever be paid. It's impossible, and it has the potential to shatter the entire national economy if it results in some kind of a default someday. What's the answer from the provincial Libs going to be if that happens?


Great Britain has been carrying debt for over 300 years - since before the Industrial Revolution. The US has carried debt for almost 200 years. Old debts get paid off and new debts get taken out . Debt is not inherently bad. The first 2 links I recently posted in another thread.

Debt Is Good
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/opinion/paul-krugman-debt-is-good-for-the-economy.html?_r=0

Public debt: How much is too much?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexch ... ublic-debt

Why You Should Love Government Deficits
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey ... eb318e1351

Why You Should Learn to Love the Deficit: Federal Budget Fallacies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey ... 4fd7232095


The Horror Movie That Is Fiscal Responsibility
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey ... b07a4326cf

Paul Krugman: The austerity delusion
http://www.theguardian.com/business/ng- ... y-delusion


The Pragmatic Capitalist: The Biggest Myths in Economics
http://www.pragcap.com/the-biggest-myth ... mics-page/
Author:  PublicAnimalNo9 [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:29 am ]
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andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.
Author:  BeaverFever [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kathleen Wynne is surrendering on equalization payments
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.

Gee, way to prove him wrong, PA9. :roll:
Author:  2Cdo [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:33 am ]
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.


Well, he does have a new "trendy" word to use and must use it every single time he makes a reference to the political right-wing. :lol:
Author:  2Cdo [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:34 am ]
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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.

Gee, way to prove him wrong, PA9. :roll:


Look it's andys cheerleader. :lol:
Author:  PublicAnimalNo9 [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:35 am ]
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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.

Gee, way to prove him wrong, PA9. :roll:

And in saunters partisan twit #2.
Author:  andyt [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:47 am ]
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
And in saunters partisan twit #2.


You and 2Cdo are sure going for the irony today, huh? [laughat]
Author:  PluggyRug [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:50 am ]
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andyt andyt:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
And in saunters partisan twit #2.


You and 2Cdo are sure going for the irony today, huh? [laughat]


Well their irony is all bright and shiny, youse guy's irony has gone rusty.
Author:  andyt [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:53 am ]
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Sure, 'cause in their ignorance they're using it all the time without knowing it.
Author:  Public_Domain [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kathleen Wynne is surrendering on equalization payments
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
Unbelievable the froth we get from the right here.
Poor andy, still can't grasp the concept that not everyone is a partisan twit like him.
While I worry about some hostile response, I wouldn't mind seeing how you explain how you aren't partisan yourself.

On a forum like this, it just looks like a pot calling the kettle black. We're all partisan. If we weren't, why would we discuss politics here, for years?

Please don't try to convince me you're rational and level-headed but no one else is. It seems to be the core feelings of virtually everyone, Fiddle ardently brags as much; we're all independent thinkers except everybody else. We formed our thoughts and opinions on personal research, experience, and morality, but everyone else just got it from some book/website/news outlet/politician/activist/parent and are just parroting stolen ideas.

Sorry, this is just a tangent now about one of my biggest political pet peeves in political discussions.

And also, as likely "Partisan Twit #3", I don't deny the charge.
Author:  PluggyRug [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:57 am ]
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Public_Domain Public_Domain:


And also, as likely "Partisan Twit #3", I don't deny the charge.


Yes but you never deny it, unlike a few here.
Author:  andyt [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kathleen Wynne is surrendering on equalization payments
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Public_Domain Public_Domain:


And also, as likely "Partisan Twit #3", I don't deny the charge.


Yes but you never deny it, unlike a few here.


You mean like PA9? I mean if he's going to call others partisan twits but not deny that he's one himself, that would be stupid. Or is that still ironic? Guess it could be both.
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