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Author:  Public_Domain [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BREAKING: GOP Congressman Shot In Virginia
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Communism will only ever be successful in the small scale where everyone agrees to it voluntarily and shares equally in the profits created by their labour. Hutterite colonies and Kibbutz work fine based on communal ideals. Anything larger requires coercion and is doomed to fail.

It's odd to assume "coercion" alone is enough to doom a system, as surely capitalism would have long ago inevitably collapsed for its exploitative and coercive tendencies.

I do agree that society must be willing. I extend this to the suggestion that almost anything that receives the will of the (worldwide) masses, or at least the non-resistance, can survive. If there's no faith in a socialist state, it will fail. For decades, the people did have faith, workers excited at the prospect of their new society and what it might be capable of, and the USSR prospered.

No, socialism will not work without a population ready to embrace it, and neither will anything else.

Which is why I think work needs to be put into reviving North American communism among the working class, rather than shooting up a baseball game. I think talking to your neighbour about their shitty boss caries more revolutionary potential than this fucking incident. But it's always nice to remind the people that our masters bleed.
Author:  bootlegga [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BREAKING: GOP Congressman Shot In Virginia
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Communism will only ever be successful in the small scale where everyone agrees to it voluntarily and shares equally in the profits created by their labour. Hutterite colonies and Kibbutz work fine based on communal ideals. Anything larger requires coercion and is doomed to fail.


Yeah, I think human nature puts paid to Communism, because while a significant chunk of the populace (maybe 60% or thereabouts) will put up with it, there are always two groups that doom its long term success: the slackers who take advantage of it and don't work as hard as everyone else, and the greedy who can't accept not having more than everyone else.
Author:  Public_Domain [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:17 am ]
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the slackers would face a social shame worse than that faced today, for there is truly no excuse to not make something of yourself and do more than just subsist. How boring.

The greedy can make themselves "more" than others. You want stature? Authority? Respect? Become a doctor, a teacher, a manufacturer, and become the best you can be. Can't get your rocks off stepping on the throats fo the poor, but you could at least be "more", socially speaking at least.

If you want to hoard 4,000 chairs in a warehouse then no (unless you made them all by yourself and used them all as personal property) I don't think you should get "more".
Author:  BRAH [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BREAKING: GOP Congressman Shot In Virginia

U2's Bono Salutes Steve Scalise at DC Concert, a Grateful Team Scalise Responds
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Last night, U2 played a concert at FedEx Field, home of the Washington Redskins. During the show, iconic lead singer Bono -- known for his progressive politics, abiding love of America, and open-minded ideological alliances -- expressed solidarity with House Republican Whip Steve Scalise and the other victims of last week's shooting at the hands of a left-wing extremist. He said he was "so grateful" that all of the victims had survived the atrocity, drawing cheers from the crowd.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/06/21/video-u2s-bono-salutes-steve-scalise-at-dc-concert-team-scalise-responds-n2344392
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