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Author:  Newsbot [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  �Fingerprint� of humanity�s climate impact seen in the seasons

Title: �Fingerprint� of humanity�s climate impact seen in the seasons
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-07-20 07:26:27
Canadian

Author:  newz [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm ]
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Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.

Author:  CharlesAnthony [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: �Fingerprint� of humanity�s climate impact seen in the seaso

It is worse than conjecture.

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:06 am ]
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newz wrote:
Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


In any case, did I read that "article" wrong or is somebody predicting the past then asking us to be amazed?

Author:  DrCaleb [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:59 am ]
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newz wrote:
Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


Climate studies aren't performed 'double blind'. Fallacy of Exclusion.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=climate

Author:  raydan [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:

DrCaleb wrote:
newz wrote:
Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


Climate studies aren't performed 'double blind'. Fallacy of Exclusion.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=climate

We could use Venus as the control subject, runaway greenhouse effect at its finest.

Author:  BartSimpson [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:

N_Fiddledog wrote:
newz wrote:
Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


In any case, did I read that "article" wrong or is somebody predicting the past then asking us to be amazed?


What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that can accurately predict the known past. :idea:

By that I mean if you take the data set for the 1930's and enter it into most any climate model it will consistently predict the 1940's and 1950's as being warmer.

Even though in reality they were significantly cooler.

That's the thing about these models is their inherent bias. No matter what data you input (including random numbers) the majority of these models will predict a warming trend.

Author:  DrCaleb [ Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:

BartSimpson wrote:
What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that can accurately predict the known past. :idea:


No, what is ironic is the number of times I've shown you that every climate model is tested in this way before it's used to predict the future.

Quote:
. Scientists can, however, test their models' accuracy through a process called ‘hindcasting’. By using past data they can see if their models can predict current climate trends. If their model can predict weather that’s already happened, then it can be trusted to make accurate predictions of the future.


https://www.ceh.ac.uk/our-science/scien ... ate-models

Author:  CharlesAnthony [ Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:

BartSimpson wrote:
What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that can accurately predict the known past. :idea:
What is ironic is that there are no bookies making money off of this bullshit.

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