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Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trudeau's immigration numbers boost poses many challenges
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Timely:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... -refugees/


Yeah that one where the Liberals sent the Jews back to Germany was pretty crappy, but why is he apologizing for me as a Canadian? I didn't do it.

Mackenzie King the leader of the Liberal party at the time did it. Apologize for your Liberals if you want Justin but don't be apologizing for me and my fellow Canadians. I wouldn't have even voted for M K if I'd been around at the time. Didn't he use to seek advice from the spirit of his dead dog or something?

Come to think of it...am I the only one who gets a little embarrassed by all the apologizing the substitute drama teacher does?

Last week he was galloping through the hills around Chilko Lake BC where media cameras just happened to be waiting. He was galloping on his way to apologize to the Tsilhqot'in Indians for some hanging that happened 150 years ago.

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This isn't the first time he's apologized for a ship that got sent back from Canada either. He can't seem to stop apologizing for that one that got sent back to India some time way back in Canadian history.

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But for God's sakes Justine if you feel you have to apologize can you stop with the fake tears. It's embarrassing. Here he is apologizing for bad historical treatment to gays, lesbians and trannies. He wanted to take credit for that on behalf of the Canadian government.

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Then there was that time he apologized for himself and although that one was deserved it was ambivalent and made him look like a weenie. That was the time he body-checked that girl in the House of Commons.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/entertainment ... vi-BBtdEzq

All I can say in my defense as a Canadian to all this Trudopian apologizing is, Hell, don't blame me. I didn't vote for him.
Author:  Coach85 [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:31 pm ]
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DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Now perhaps you will stop with the 'border jumpers jumping the queue' BS?


Jumping the queue is BS but they are going around the rules we and the US have in place to handle these refugees that are coming from the US.

These people are supposed to be claiming refuge in the US, by law. They aren't being referred like they should be by an organization or sponsor nor are they coming to an actual crossing and going about the proper procedures.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pm ]
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All he has to do is proclaim the whole border a legal point of entry and then we can kick those border jumpers back where they came from. America.

But he won't. Anybody wonder why?
Author:  DrCaleb [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:36 am ]
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Coach85 Coach85:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Now perhaps you will stop with the 'border jumpers jumping the queue' BS?


Jumping the queue is BS but they are going around the rules we and the US have in place to handle these refugees that are coming from the US.

These people are supposed to be claiming refuge in the US, by law. They aren't being referred like they should be by an organization or sponsor nor are they coming to an actual crossing and going about the proper procedures.


Yes, they are using a loophole in the 'Safe Country Agreement' to leave what they think is an unsafe country and re-apply for refuge in Canada. But since CBS has found that the US is a safe country, their appeals end up being denied and they are returned to their country of origin. Not to the US, but their home, unless thy actually face punishment or death on return to that home.

So their attempt to circumvent the law is being punished, not rewarded. Perhaps that the reason we see fewer and fewer trying to game the system, and more and more deportations from Canada.
Author:  Coach85 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 am ]
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
All he has to do is proclaim the whole border a legal point of entry and then we can kick those border jumpers back where they came from. America.

But he won't. Anybody wonder why?


Because he needs full cooperation from the United States to make that change.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:58 am ]
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Coach85 Coach85:
]Because he needs full cooperation from the United States to make that change.


Well, not to proclaim the whole border a legal point of entry. That would be an exploit around an exploit.

But you're right in that the better, more official way of dealing with it would be to review the "Safe Third Country" agreement we have with the Americans and tweak it back into sanity.

Until then what's happening is there's an exploit in a flawed agreement allowing border jumpers to law-break under a weak Canadian government and get away with it.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:07 am ]
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There's actually another way to deal with the border jumpers. That's the way Trump is proposing dealing with the caravan.

You build reserves along the border where you restrict the border jumpers until their claims are resolved. Trump is using tent cities though. We couldn't do that, I don't think. Canadian winter.
Author:  herbie [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:27 am ]
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$1:
He was galloping on his way to apologize to the Tsilhqot'in Indians for some hanging that happened 150 years ago.


He's "weak" for apologizing for a wrong rather than mocking and dismissing it as "some hanging that happened 150 years ago"

Who's the asshole here?
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:49 am ]
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I don't think I said "weak" there, did I.

Might be true in other cases like when he's allowing border jumpers to piss on the idea that Canada has a border though.

As far as the great apologizer's policy of apologizing for any historical wrong he can find when in need of a photo-op I think the word I used there was "embarrassing".
Author:  Coach85 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:54 pm ]
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Until then what's happening is there's an exploit in a flawed agreement allowing border jumpers to law-break under a weak Canadian government and get away with it.


The way they are being handled is as if they're crossing at a legal port of entry. They are immediately detained and undergo thorough security and background screening.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trudeau's immigration numbers boost poses many challenges
Coach85 Coach85:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Until then what's happening is there's an exploit in a flawed agreement allowing border jumpers to law-break under a weak Canadian government and get away with it.


The way they are being handled is as if they're crossing at a legal port of entry. They are immediately detained and undergo thorough security and background screening.


I know. That's the way it is at Roxham road anyway. They even have structures there for processing.

It's indistinguishable from an actual Legal port of entry.

But they don't call Roxham road a legal point of entry because if they did they'd have to send the bulk of these "refugee claimants" back to America immediately by Canadian law.

If that's not the case why don't the "refugee claimants" just use an official point of entry?
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:09 pm ]
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And this border jumper surge is not assisting in financing Canada's social safety net, as some on this thread have been attempting to imply.

They are straining it. Then the immigration minister, Ahmed Hussen insults anybody who notices this fact.
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