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Despite Cooper’s apology, Scheer removed him from the justice committee, while Suri said he should be booted from the Conservative caucus — both of which are absurd overreactions.

Here’s what happened, during his testimony Suri said:

“The evidence from (Alexandre) Bissonette’s computer showed he repeatedly sought content about anti-immigrant, alt-right and conservative commentators, mass murderers, U.S. President Donald Trump, and about Muslims, immigrants living in Quebec.”

Suri’s assertion, while garbled, falsely lumped “conservative commentators,” without qualification, to those holding anti-immigrant/alt-right views, and with influencing mass murderers to kill Muslims.

Bissonette fatally shot six Muslims and injured 19 others in a terrorist attack on a Quebec City mosque in 2017.

Cooper responded: “I take great umbrage with your defamatory comments to try to link conservatism with violent and extremist attacks. They have no foundation, they are defamatory, and they diminish your credibility as a witness. I certainly wouldn’t attempt to link Bernie Sanders to the individual who shot up Republican members of Congress and nearly fatally killed Congressman (Steve) Scalise. So you should be ashamed.”

Scalise and three others were wounded by James Hodgkinson, a left-wing political activist and supporter of Bernie Sanders, in a 2017 terrorist attack on Republican congressmen in Alexandria, Virginia. They were practising for an annual charity baseball game with the Democrats.

Cooper also read a passage from the manifesto of alleged New Zealand terrorist Brenton Tarrant — who is accused of murdering 49 people and wounding dozens of others in a attack on two mosques in Christchurch in March — in which Tarrant said he rejected conservatism and admired China.

Suri, who accused Cooper of racism, criticized him for quoting Tarrant’s manifesto because it’s “banned” in N.Z., which is absurd given that (a) Tarrant’s manifesto has been quoted widely by the media, (b) Cooper did it for a relevant reason, and (c) Suri had previously cited the views of another terrorist, Bissonette.

Outraged Liberal and NDP MPs on the committee halted the proceedings and demanded Cooper apologize, at which point he withdrew his comment that Suri should be ashamed. He later published a longer apology on twitter.

Rather ironic given that when my Sun Media colleague, Tarek Fatah, testified before another Commons committee on the Liberals’ “Islamophobia” motion in 2017, he was treated with contempt by Liberal and NDP MPs.

None of them apologized. No one was demoted by their party leaders.

Cooper had every right to refute an unfair suggestion conservative commentary in and of itself prompts people to become terrorists.

Or is all anti-Israel commentary by the left responsible for terrorist attacks on Israelis and Jews?

The motives of terrorists are complex, the result of many factors, that may include extreme rhetoric on the right and left.

It’s fine for Scheer to keep denying Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s false allegation he’s a white supremacist supporter.

But he should be hitting back hard when Conservatives are falsely accused of racism, and conservative commentary of inspiring terrorism.

I change my mind again. I'm voting Max again. I don't care if I do split the vote now. We'll build the party and get em' next time.

The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. :evil:

Thanos Thanos:

So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few?

As someone who actually lives in Cooper's riding, here's his personal take on the issue, taken from his own Facebook page:

Tricks Tricks:

Thanos Thanos:

So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few?

Identifiable, as in the "all white males are evil" narrative that the left is pushing hard and that the media is going along with quite willingly?

Thanos Thanos:

When you sleep with extremists, you get what you got.

Shouldn't have supported and brainwashed extremists just to end Soviet Empire.

Thanos Thanos:

Tricks Tricks:

So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few?

Identifiable, as in the "all white males are evil" narrative that the left is pushing hard and that the media is going along with quite willingly?

Equally as stupid and ridiculous as "All muslims are terrorists".

Author:	Newsbot [ Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:57 pm ]
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Title: Witness says Conservative MP Cooper should be removed from caucus after hearing outlash Category: Business Posted By: N_Fiddledog Date: 2019-06-02 20:50:39 Canadian

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:57 pm ]
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Hey, Global... Why is what the witness said to the Conservative the headline? Why isn't it what MP said to the witness? That seems to be more what the story is about. Asking for a friend.

Author:	PublicAnimalNo9 [ Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:52 pm ]
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Notice how Suri ignored the 200+ Filipinos murdered in their church by muslims in January of this year. And the 20-30 Ethiopians murdered in their church by muslims in February. Personally, I'm shocked and disgusted at any political party that would have as a member some douchebag owning that book of hate speech disguised as religion called the Koran. The muslims have mastered the art of manipulation through the media and now social media. The muslim world has been trying to wipe out Israel for 70 years. Palestine continually attacks them. Yet they've convinced a good portion of the population that THEY are the victims of Israeli aggression. For years the Rohingya terrorized the local Buddhist population where they lived. But as soon as they had enough of the Rohingya's shit, suddenly we're supposed to feel sorry for these poor oppressed people who now have to lay in the beds they made for themselves. M-103 was predicated on the increase in hate crimes against muslims in Canada. Looking at the stats for the given 3 yr period there is a doubling of the rate. BUT, when you look at the exact same stats, hate crimes against White Canadians increased by 2.5x over the same time period. Now, you have to do some digging to find this out but, that increase in hate crimes against White Canadians is almost commensurate with the increase is muslim immigration to Canada. I think conservatives across Canada should contact Mr. Suri and demand an apology from him for suggesting that murdering muslims is a Conservative ideal. However, there's something interesting that a LOT of people miss. Religious extremism is right-wing extremism. Jewish, Christian and Muslim fundies are by nature right-wingers. And we know that religious violence tends to come from the fundie assholes. Considering the Christchurch mosque shooter was ALT-right, he actually had a LOT more in common with islamic terrorists than with your run of the mill conservative.

Author:	JaredMilne [ Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:18 pm ]
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As someone who actually lives in Cooper's riding, here's his personal take on the issue, taken from his own Facebook page:

Author:	Thanos [ Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:26 pm ]
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The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them.

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Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:42 pm ]
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MOD EDIT If you haven't advanced to the point you realize you never apologize to "Progressives" or Islamists what good are you? I change my mind again. I'm voting Max again. I don't care if I do split the vote now. We'll build the party and get em' next time. You don't apologize to a certain type even if you are repentant - which in this case I doubt. It only serves to make them think you're weak and encourages them to grind the boot in deeper until you grovel, squirming worm deep. At that point and to them your only purpose is to serve as a warning to those who might be brave enough to notice that what you were made to apologize for was only the truth.

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:32 pm ]
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Tory MP Michael Cooper has little to apologize for $1: Despite Cooper’s apology, Scheer removed him from the justice committee, while Suri said he should be booted from the Conservative caucus — both of which are absurd overreactions. Here’s what happened, during his testimony Suri said: “The evidence from (Alexandre) Bissonette’s computer showed he repeatedly sought content about anti-immigrant, alt-right and conservative commentators, mass murderers, U.S. President Donald Trump, and about Muslims, immigrants living in Quebec.” Suri’s assertion, while garbled, falsely lumped “conservative commentators,” without qualification, to those holding anti-immigrant/alt-right views, and with influencing mass murderers to kill Muslims. Bissonette fatally shot six Muslims and injured 19 others in a terrorist attack on a Quebec City mosque in 2017. Cooper responded: “I take great umbrage with your defamatory comments to try to link conservatism with violent and extremist attacks. They have no foundation, they are defamatory, and they diminish your credibility as a witness. I certainly wouldn’t attempt to link Bernie Sanders to the individual who shot up Republican members of Congress and nearly fatally killed Congressman (Steve) Scalise. So you should be ashamed.” Scalise and three others were wounded by James Hodgkinson, a left-wing political activist and supporter of Bernie Sanders, in a 2017 terrorist attack on Republican congressmen in Alexandria, Virginia. They were practising for an annual charity baseball game with the Democrats. Cooper also read a passage from the manifesto of alleged New Zealand terrorist Brenton Tarrant — who is accused of murdering 49 people and wounding dozens of others in a attack on two mosques in Christchurch in March — in which Tarrant said he rejected conservatism and admired China. Suri, who accused Cooper of racism, criticized him for quoting Tarrant’s manifesto because it’s “banned” in N.Z., which is absurd given that (a) Tarrant’s manifesto has been quoted widely by the media, (b) Cooper did it for a relevant reason, and (c) Suri had previously cited the views of another terrorist, Bissonette. Outraged Liberal and NDP MPs on the committee halted the proceedings and demanded Cooper apologize, at which point he withdrew his comment that Suri should be ashamed. He later published a longer apology on twitter. Rather ironic given that when my Sun Media colleague, Tarek Fatah, testified before another Commons committee on the Liberals’ “Islamophobia” motion in 2017, he was treated with contempt by Liberal and NDP MPs. None of them apologized. No one was demoted by their party leaders. Cooper had every right to refute an unfair suggestion conservative commentary in and of itself prompts people to become terrorists. Or is all anti-Israel commentary by the left responsible for terrorist attacks on Israelis and Jews? The motives of terrorists are complex, the result of many factors, that may include extreme rhetoric on the right and left. It’s fine for Scheer to keep denying Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s false allegation he’s a white supremacist supporter. But he should be hitting back hard when Conservatives are falsely accused of racism, and conservative commentary of inspiring terrorism. https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... logize-for

Author:	Freakinoldguy [ Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:26 pm ]
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: I change my mind again. I'm voting Max again. I don't care if I do split the vote now. We'll build the party and get em' next time. Given how much damage Shiny Pony is causing there won't be enough left for a "next time". So to say you're voting for Max rather than Scheer is pretty much akin to saying your voting for 4 more years of the same destructive regime that's working overtime to dismantle Canada and remake it into their own warped image.

Author:	Fighter [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:03 am ]
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Thanos Thanos: The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. When you sleep with extremists, you get what you got. Shouldn't have supported and brainwashed extremists just to end Soviet Empire.

Author:	Tricks [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:17 am ]
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Thanos Thanos: The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few?

Author:	Thanos [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:17 pm ]
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Tricks Tricks: Thanos Thanos: The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few? Identifiable, as in the "all white males are evil" narrative that the left is pushing hard and that the media is going along with quite willingly?

Author:	bootlegga [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:46 pm ]
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JaredMilne JaredMilne: As someone who actually lives in Cooper's riding, here's his personal take on the issue, taken from his own Facebook page: Cooper is a dirtbag who deserves any political fallout this causes to him. I live in his riding too and I wish any other party would run a decent candidate to at least put up a fight against tools like him and Rathgerber (previous MP). Otherwise, this dickhead is just going to get 60 or 65% of the vote again - I wouldn't expect anyone to unseat him because this riding is gerrymandered really well, but I'd like to see MP dickhead sweat just a little on election night.

Author:	Tricks [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:58 pm ]
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Thanos Thanos: Tricks Tricks: Thanos Thanos: The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few? Identifiable, as in the "all white males are evil" narrative that the left is pushing hard and that the media is going along with quite willingly? Equally as stupid and ridiculous as "All muslims are terrorists".

Author:	BartSimpson [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:14 pm ]
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Fighter Fighter: Thanos Thanos: The only mistake in all of this episode was in apologizing because the truth should never be apologized for. If anything it needed to be doubled-down on and not an inch given on this issue. Let me now when all the white "supremacist" violence reaches the same death toll that Sept 11, the San Bernardino massacre, and the Pulse nightclub shooting had and I'll start giving a damn about hurt Muslim feelings. Until then though quit fucking coddling them. When you sleep with extremists, you get what you got. Shouldn't have supported and brainwashed extremists just to end Soviet Empire. It pisses me off but it's abundantly true. +5

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Author:	Thanos [ Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:19 pm ]
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Tricks Tricks: Thanos Thanos: Tricks Tricks: So we should group identifiable groups of people together because of the actions of the few? Identifiable, as in the "all white males are evil" narrative that the left is pushing hard and that the media is going along with quite willingly? Equally as stupid and ridiculous as "All muslims are terrorists". The media is in love with the former narrative, as much as they are with "Muslims are always innocent, and if they do anything bad it's just some white guy's fault anyway" one. Don't expect this to ever end, because the extreme left is as much responsible for the identity wars as the crazies on the hard right are.