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Author:  Newsbot [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Title: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut
Category: Showbiz
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2019-10-06 10:20:12

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:52 am ]
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From the Daily Mail:

"'It's way too terrifying':

Joker viewers around the world WALK OUT of movie theaters and urge cinemas to BAN the ultra-violent film saying it glamorizes gun crime and deals with mental health issues in a 'triggering' way

Some moviegoers bashed Joker on Twitter and said they walked out
A fan claimed Joker was 'too terrifying' considering 'what is going on the world'
Others are raving about the twisted R-rated portrayal of Batman's nemesis
The film is raking in cash, breaking the October opening day box office record
So far there have been no serious incidents despite fears of a shooting
One theater in California shut down for a night after police received a threat
In Manhattan a disruptive patron was escorted out after scaring moviegoers
Police across the nation have high security in place for Joker screenings"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... atres.html


Author:  Freakinoldguy [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

So, I'm assuming that these perpetually butt hurts don't understand the difference between a movies artistic license and reality. Nor do they seem to understand the concept of "free will" because if they did, they'd realise that they aren't obliged to go to a movie they think is to violent for their own personal consumption and therefore should have no right to attempt to take away others rights to make their own choices.

I weep for our society. [bash]

As for watching it, after the debacle that was Marvel's End Game I think I'll wait till it comes out on video before I spend any money on it. [B-o]

Author:  FieryVulpine [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

I saw Joker last Friday. Am I supposed to go on a rampage?

Author:  Freakinoldguy [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

FieryVulpine wrote:
I saw Joker last Friday. Am I supposed to go on a rampage?


Apparently. :wink:

Author:  Thanos [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Despite the best effort of the media to start a new moral panic, absolutely nothing happens due to naughty movie becoming successful and popular. :lol:

One of those clear moments where the crusading social left has everything in common with the social conservatives. No one's ever died as the result of a fictional movie with the film being a direct provoker of violence. Or from rock and roll, or Dungeons & Dragons, or a thousand other entertainments or amusements the scolds can't ever tolerate. But that doesn't mean they won't stop trying to incite a panic to fit their political agenda. Aye, the world 'tis only fit for assholes now. :|

Author:  xerxes [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:57 pm ]
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What I hate about articles like this is that a few malcontents make a bit of noise and now because 90% of the media in the world now is about drilling for outrage fuel, we have to read about idiots like these.

It's a R rated movie, what did these fools expect? Hugs and kisses?

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Are you under the impression it was just the one article?

This whole business of OMG! Joker will be an incels movie and the incels will be shooting up the theatres because the crazy guy who shot up the theatre in Colorado wore Joker makeup, or something like that, has been around for months.

The Daily Mail was just commenting on the phenomena.

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Just for fun would you like to see how I rate movies?

If you check out the graphic below you'll note that Rotten Tomatoes has the reviewers rating at 69%. The audience rated it 91%.

So I add 69 to 91 and get 160. Then I deduct 69 from 91 = 22.

Then I add 22 to 160 to get 182. Joker has a 182 rating.

150 is a gotta see it.

If the audience score had been less than the critics I would have deducted Audience from Reviewers and deducted that number from the total of the 2.

It works providing it's the sort of movie you might be interested in, in the first place.

Attachments:
Joker rating.JPG
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Author:  Thanos [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

It's probably the left's revenge for everyone crapping on Lady Ghostbusters. Except it failed, because Joker will make more money in four weeks than LG made in four years. :lol:

Author:  BeaverFever [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:00 pm ]
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I don’t think it’s a left-right issue. It’s just people overreacting.
Their fear isn’t totally unwarranted however, considering that a mentally ill joker fan in Colorado did actually shoot up a theatre screening Dark Knight Rises with an AR-15 style weapon, a 12-guage shotgun, a handgun and tear gas grenades, resulting in 82 casualties.

I’m not saying the movie should be banned or anything but it’s fair comment to talk about it.

Author:  Thanos [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:06 pm ]
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The media basically saying that Joker would actually inspire someone to go on a mass-shoot is incredibly reckless. There is no evidence, period, that any genre fiction has every inspired anyone to that kind of violence. Tying a movie into the actions of scum like Eliot Rodgers or Alex Minassian is absolutely ridiculous. This is media laziness at it's worst, with them once again looking away from the reality that if these bastards are inspired by anything when they explode it's in their toxic echo-chambers in social media where other losers like them give them encouragement. Blaming a movie to placate the morons out there is easy. Doing an actual examination of how & why is difficult, which is exactly why pop-media craving for clicks and ratings doesn't do the hard work of actual investigation or examination anymore.

Author:  BeaverFever [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Thanos wrote:
The media basically saying that Joker would actually inspire someone to go on a mass-shoot is incredibly reckless. There is no evidence, period, that any genre fiction has every inspired anyone to that kind of violence. Tying a movie into the actions of scum like Eliot Rodgers or Alex Minassian is absolutely ridiculous. This is media laziness at it's worst, with them once again looking away from the reality that if these bastards are inspired by anything when they explode it's in their toxic echo-chambers in social media where other losers like them give them encouragement. Blaming a movie to placate the morons out there is easy. Doing an actual examination of how & why is difficult, which is exactly why pop-media craving for clicks and ratings doesn't do the hard work of actual investigation or examination anymore.



“The Media” isn’t saying these things, they’re just reporting on what some members of the public are saying.

I don’t think anyone can say definitively one way or the other whether some sociopath inspired to some heinous act by a movie would have done something similar even without the movie. It probably depends on the specific case. But personally I think it’s not terribly relevant either way because we shouldn’t self-censor just for these people.

Author:  Thanos [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

With "the public" in this case being the stronks from the Twitter mob, proving again that they're as puritanical as anything that's ever existed on the fringe right.

Twitter - making sure that all the idiotic opinions that were never worth listening to in the first place get firmly shoved down everyone else's throat. :|

Author:  xerxes [ Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: �Joker� Smashes October Record With $93.5 Million Debut

Thanos wrote:
The media basically saying that Joker would actually inspire someone to go on a mass-shoot is incredibly reckless. There is no evidence, period, that any genre fiction has every inspired anyone to that kind of violence. Tying a movie into the actions of scum like Eliot Rodgers or Alex Minassian is absolutely ridiculous. This is media laziness at it's worst, with them once again looking away from the reality that if these bastards are inspired by anything when they explode it's in their toxic echo-chambers in social media where other losers like them give them encouragement. Blaming a movie to placate the morons out there is easy. Doing an actual examination of how & why is difficult, which is exactly why pop-media craving for clicks and ratings doesn't do the hard work of actual investigation or examination anymore.


Them, and the known panty waists in the US Army who told service-members to be careful when going to the movie for that reason.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/joker-movie-army-warning-violence

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