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Mr. Trump would not have received any real-time dialogue from the scene, the officials said, because the last thing American military planners want is to invite critique, second-guessing or even new orders from the Situation Room in the middle of an active military raid.

In fact, in recent years American Special Operations forces have moved away from using helmet cameras to pipe back video in real time on every mission because it is often violent and disorienting, and invites instant quarterbacking from back in command centers.

Perhaps because of the importance of this raid, though, the Delta Force operators were wearing body cameras, officials said, but those cameras do not broadcast in real time; instead the video in those cameras is configured to be downloaded and reviewed after the operation is complete.

Why is it so important to you both that Poo Pakr died like a boss, anyway?

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Why is it so important to you both that Poo Pakr died like a boss, anyway?

Oh, shut up you insipid tool. :roll:

What the president saw, according to military and intelligence officials, was overhead surveillance footage on several video screens that, together, provided various angles from above, and in real time.

For that, Mr. Trump would have had to have gotten a report from the commandos directly, or relayed up through their chain of command to the commander in chief.

At the Pentagon on Sunday, officials steered clear of any description of Mr. al-Baghdadi whimpering or crying, and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, when pressed about the president’s assertion on ABC’s “This Week,” did not repeat the “whimpering” characterization.

“I don’t have those details,” Mr. Esper said. “The president probably had the opportunity to talk to the commanders on the ground.”

President Trump announced on Twitter that the successor to Islamic State terror leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been “terminated by American troops.”

“Just confirmed that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s number one replacement has been terminated by American troops. Most likely would have taken the top spot – Now he is also Dead!,” Trump said on Tuesday.

And he's back on the ignore list

“Killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was a victory to the United States and it was a great day for all Americans, whether on the left or right or center,” Hasson told Carlson. “But instead, some in the media and the left, although I repeat myself, seem to be incapable of viewing any issue outside the prism of ‘what is good for Donald Trump is bad, and what is bad for Donald Trump is good.’”

He recalled how shortly after news of Baghdadi’s death broke, there was “a cascade of attempts to either downplay the significance of the mission, or to find a negative angle from which to spin it.” Hasson also informed his host about how “CNN had a story on their homepage called: ‘How does killing Baghdadi affect the impeachment inquiry?’”

“They actually had that,” Carlson asked in disbelief.

Moving on, Hasson pointed to the Twitter post of CNBC’s John Harwood which “compared killing Baghdadi to killing an ant.”

Hasson saved some of his toughest criticism for Washington Post columnist Max Boot, who’s so afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome that he actually stuck-up for Baghdadi’s bravery when President Trump called him a coward:

HASSON: And, Of course, you had Max Boot, who takes the cake as he normally does with stupidity, and decided to defend Baghdadi from the charges of being a coward. Let’s take a step--

CARLSON: Stand up for the manly virtues of Baghdadi.

HASSON: Right. And let’s take a step back here. Baghdadi ran down a tunnel with three children as human shields and he got to the end of the tunnel, and was cornered, and then he blew himself up.

CARLSON: He committed suicide.

HASSON: And the children with him.

“That's not anything other than cowardice,” he added, noting that Boot’s behavior was indicative of his first point regarding the anti-Trump “prism” in which they view seemingly everything. Hasson went on to mock Boot: "[I]f you find yourself defending the leader of ISIS, you should take a long walk, take the fedora off, look in the mirror, and, you know, rethink some things."

That’s not to mention the Washington Post’s ridiculous obituary headline that touted Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar.”

NPR gushed over ISIS terror leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, describing him as a “real leader” who spearheaded a “movement we’ve never seen before.”

During a roundtable discussion about Baghdadi’s death, NPR reporter Greg Myre all but praised the man responsible for beheading three Americans and enslaving and killing an American woman.

“He led a movement that we’ve never seen before,” Myre said. “ISIS had tens of thousands of members, fighters, coming in from all over the world.”

“They controlled massive amounts of territory — in Eastern Syria and Western and Northern Iraq,” Myre said, adding ISIS had “millions of people under their control.”

“They administered cities, they collected taxes,” Myre said.

“They had this incredible online recruit presence in terms of spreading propaganda; recruiting followers,” Myre said. “This is a guy that sort of emerged on the scene.”

“And led this group that had done something we’d never seen before,” Myre said.

He went on to assert that Baghdadi was a “real leader” and that ISIS would find it hard to replace him.

NPR was not the only news outlet to be strangely effusive towards Baghdadi after his death.

The Washington Post drew widespread condemnation and ridicule by referring to the terror leader as an “austere religious scholar.”

Others attempted to downplay Baghdadi’s importance, with Newsweek citing an unnamed “intelligence official” who claimed that Baghdadi “had become largely symbolic.”

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:27 pm ]
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Author:	xerxes [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:31 pm ]
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Why yes, yes I have. And as far as I know, they don't have international live-streaming ability from underground. $1: Mr. Trump would not have received any real-time dialogue from the scene, the officials said, because the last thing American military planners want is to invite critique, second-guessing or even new orders from the Situation Room in the middle of an active military raid. In fact, in recent years American Special Operations forces have moved away from using helmet cameras to pipe back video in real time on every mission because it is often violent and disorienting, and invites instant quarterbacking from back in command centers. Perhaps because of the importance of this raid, though, the Delta Force operators were wearing body cameras, officials said, but those cameras do not broadcast in real time; instead the video in those cameras is configured to be downloaded and reviewed after the operation is complete. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/world/middleeast/trump-baghdadi-video-raid.html And you're missing the point of the pictures (as usual). The picture of Obama watching the raid that killed OBL was taken as it happened. The one of Trump was taken after the fact.

Author:	Thanos [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:51 pm ]
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: Why is it so important to you both that Poo Pakr died like a boss, anyway? Oh, shut up Mod Edit.

Author:	herbie [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:04 pm ]
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Yeah that was a really Presidential announcement. If you actually think its alright for the POTUS to incoherently ramble his semi-literate description of what went down in his mocking tone... Fuck impeachment, the Chiefs of Staff, the VP and the AG should have the men in white suits carry him off in a straightjacket...

Author:	BeaverFever [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:07 am ]
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Yeah we can just take for granted the “whimpering and screaming” was just classic Trump immature embellishment. The Pentagon has disowned the statement and Trump only had an overhead view. The conservative mindset is, if you want to challenge Trum’s lie it means you like terrorists...see Fiddles comment above abut wanting him to “die like a boss”. The feeble conservative mind can’t contemplate any other alternative. Also remember the fake conservative hysteria when Biden pointed out that obvious that Seal Team 6 took down bin laden? Suddenly no concerns about the classified info Trump shared. Funny that.

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Author:	llama66 [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:12 am ]
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MGen. Bitey (the dog that killed Al-Baghdadi (this time)) I, for the record, would very much like to give this puppy scritches behind the ears and pet this puppy.

Author:	DrCaleb [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:19 am ]
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Someone needs a belly rub.

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:09 am ]
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Thanos Thanos: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: Why is it so important to you both that Poo Pakr died like a boss, anyway? Oh, shut up you insipid tool. What? A great mind like yours doesn't have answers to the obvious question? I see you have other great minds like Beave with you now, so again why is it so important to a certain type that Baghdadi should have died like a Boss.

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:24 am ]
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Oh and Xerxes you forgot to give us some of the other important quotes from that article. $1: What the president saw, according to military and intelligence officials, was overhead surveillance footage on several video screens that, together, provided various angles from above, and in real time. So again, all you've got is a TDS flavored media source claiming some anonymous source told it something. Could be. It could also be that the article claiming they wanted on the ground battlefield audio/video relays might mean something. They already relay between drone and helicopter for targeting. But let's say the fishwrap of record has interpreted what it says it heard correctly and let's say that means no video or audio could have passed up the tunnel. That still doesn't mean your Progressive dreams of Baghdadi dying like a Boss came true. Even your source says. $1: For that, Mr. Trump would have had to have gotten a report from the commandos directly, or relayed up through their chain of command to the commander in chief. At the Pentagon on Sunday, officials steered clear of any description of Mr. al-Baghdadi whimpering or crying, and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, when pressed about the president’s assertion on ABC’s “This Week,” did not repeat the “whimpering” characterization. “I don’t have those details,” Mr. Esper said. “The president probably had the opportunity to talk to the commanders on the ground.”

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:26 am ]
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And this is new. I imagine you and yours will be digging hard for some anonymous sources to tell you this didn't happen: Trump says US ‘terminated’ potential successor to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi $1: President Trump announced on Twitter that the successor to Islamic State terror leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been “terminated by American troops.” “Just confirmed that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s number one replacement has been terminated by American troops. Most likely would have taken the top spot – Now he is also Dead!,” Trump said on Tuesday. https://nypost.com/2019/10/29/trump-say ... -baghdadi/

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:12 am ]
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And seeing as all we're dealing with here are opinions and I'm outnumbered, here's somebody who agrees with me:

Author:	Thanos [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:24 am ]
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And he's back on the ignore list for being obtuse enough to suggest that anyone here who didn't stop to rub one out at Trump's suggestion on how al-Baghdadi died is somehow pro-terrorist. Truly one of the lower moments from the CKA right-wing kooks.

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:43 am ]
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Thanos Thanos: And he's back on the ignore list Find somebody who cares. I'll still be asking the obvious questions and you still won't have the answers. So what's the difference. Tell you what though. Because I like you I'll provide the answer for you as to why you're being told by Progressive overlord media to attack this positive story of how the monster beheader, rapist-murderer of an American aide worker,and leader of the psycho, religious, murder cult called ISIs was taken down. $1: “Killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was a victory to the United States and it was a great day for all Americans, whether on the left or right or center,” Hasson told Carlson. “But instead, some in the media and the left, although I repeat myself, seem to be incapable of viewing any issue outside the prism of ‘what is good for Donald Trump is bad, and what is bad for Donald Trump is good.’” He recalled how shortly after news of Baghdadi’s death broke, there was “a cascade of attempts to either downplay the significance of the mission, or to find a negative angle from which to spin it.” Hasson also informed his host about how “CNN had a story on their homepage called: ‘How does killing Baghdadi affect the impeachment inquiry?’” “They actually had that,” Carlson asked in disbelief. Moving on, Hasson pointed to the Twitter post of CNBC’s John Harwood which “compared killing Baghdadi to killing an ant.” Hasson saved some of his toughest criticism for Washington Post columnist Max Boot, who’s so afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome that he actually stuck-up for Baghdadi’s bravery when President Trump called him a coward: HASSON: And, Of course, you had Max Boot, who takes the cake as he normally does with stupidity, and decided to defend Baghdadi from the charges of being a coward. Let’s take a step-- CARLSON: Stand up for the manly virtues of Baghdadi. HASSON: Right. And let’s take a step back here. Baghdadi ran down a tunnel with three children as human shields and he got to the end of the tunnel, and was cornered, and then he blew himself up. CARLSON: He committed suicide. HASSON: And the children with him. “That's not anything other than cowardice,” he added, noting that Boot’s behavior was indicative of his first point regarding the anti-Trump “prism” in which they view seemingly everything. Hasson went on to mock Boot: "[I]f you find yourself defending the leader of ISIS, you should take a long walk, take the fedora off, look in the mirror, and, you know, rethink some things." That’s not to mention the Washington Post’s ridiculous obituary headline that touted Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar.” https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ni ... hdadi-raid

Author:	N_Fiddledog [ Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:50 am ]
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NPR Gushes Over Baghdadi: “He Was a Real Leader” $1: NPR gushed over ISIS terror leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, describing him as a “real leader” who spearheaded a “movement we’ve never seen before.” During a roundtable discussion about Baghdadi’s death, NPR reporter Greg Myre all but praised the man responsible for beheading three Americans and enslaving and killing an American woman. “He led a movement that we’ve never seen before,” Myre said. “ISIS had tens of thousands of members, fighters, coming in from all over the world.” “They controlled massive amounts of territory — in Eastern Syria and Western and Northern Iraq,” Myre said, adding ISIS had “millions of people under their control.” “They administered cities, they collected taxes,” Myre said. “They had this incredible online recruit presence in terms of spreading propaganda; recruiting followers,” Myre said. “This is a guy that sort of emerged on the scene.” “And led this group that had done something we’d never seen before,” Myre said. He went on to assert that Baghdadi was a “real leader” and that ISIS would find it hard to replace him. NPR was not the only news outlet to be strangely effusive towards Baghdadi after his death. The Washington Post drew widespread condemnation and ridicule by referring to the terror leader as an “austere religious scholar.” Others attempted to downplay Baghdadi’s importance, with Newsweek citing an unnamed “intelligence official” who claimed that Baghdadi “had become largely symbolic.” https://summit.news/2019/10/29/npr-gush ... al-leader/

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