So you are all saying that when Conservatives complain that the Liberals are "hollowing out the middle class", they don't know what they are talking about?
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| Author: | Newsbot [ Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:54 pm ] |
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Title: Middle class prosperity minister says Canada can't measure who is in the middle class | CTV News Category: Political Posted By: uwish Date: 2020-01-28 11:48:49 Canadian |
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| Author: | Martin15 [ Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:54 pm ] |
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They started with lots of bullshit, and still have most of it left. |
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| Author: | CharlesAnthony [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:57 am ] |
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The intent is to destroy normal people. |
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| Author: | CDN_PATRIOT [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:59 am ] |
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$1: "There's no unique definition for middle class," she told host Joyce Napier. Yes there is: POOR. Only in Canada can there be a 'middle class prosperity minister', and one that is so utterly clueless. Not only that, but how can she be a proper judge of the middle class, when she's a federal minister that makes $178,900 a year and never has to worry about whether or not she can put food on the table or pay her heating bill? People like her make me sick. What a joke. -J. |
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| Author: | DrCaleb [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:51 am ] |
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So you are all saying that when Conservatives complain that the Liberals are "hollowing out the middle class", they don't know what they are talking about?
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| Author: | CDN_PATRIOT [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:38 am ] |
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I'm saying is there is almost NO 'middle class' left. The divide between rich and poor widens daily. Why we need a cabinet minister to look after something that is almost extinct is beyond me right now. -J. |
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| Author: | uwish [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:38 am ] |
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funny, why have a minister and department of the middle class if they don't know what it is? seems pretty useless to me.. |
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| Author: | Prof_Chomsky [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:27 am ] |
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Seems like a good reason to have a minister of the middle class... I mean, if the government couldn't even define it for the last 200 years, I guess we need someone to actually figure out what it means, then stand up for us. |
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| Author: | DrCaleb [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:54 pm ] |
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The Greeks knew that Democracy would always be about the poor, because the poor part of the population would always be the largest. I think we've lost sight of that. |
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| Author: | CDN_PATRIOT [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:53 pm ] |
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Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: Seems like a good reason to have a minister of the middle class... I mean, if the government couldn't even define it for the last 200 years, I guess we need someone to actually figure out what it means, then stand up for us.  -J. |
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| Author: | Freakinoldguy [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:43 pm ] |
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So, what the Liberals are saying is that we, the Liberal Party of Canada are going to do what contemporary social scientists and every gov't in the civilized world hasn't been able to do. And, that's to identify the who's, the what's, the why's and the where's of a societal segment that, till now nobody else has been able to truthfully put an identifier on? Talk about arrogance. But a question. With no one willing to admit that they actually know what the middle class really is how can the left keep claiming that Ronald Reagan's fiscal policies were designed to destroy it?  Wait, if these guys can claim to have figured out what the middle class is why the fuck can't our overpaid and under performing cabinet minister and her myriad of bureaucrats do the same. If these people are to be believed it's all based on income which, while simplistic is likely the only way it can be figured out with any accuracy. Especially since the goal posts move contiually. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/21/how-muc ... earns.html |
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| Author: | Thanos [ Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:54 pm ] |
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CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT: I'm saying is there is almost NO 'middle class' left. The divide between rich and poor widens daily. Why we need a cabinet minister to look after something that is almost extinct is beyond me right now. -J. Given how good Canadian governments of both parties have been in the last thirty or forty years at causing as much damage as they could to the middle class through excessive taxation and overseeing the endless outsourcing of Canadian jobs maybe this project of "helping" the middle class should be handed over to the same ministry that supervised the near-extinction of the beaver, the buffalo, and the Canadian goose. Yeah, they really care about us. 
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| Author: | DrCaleb [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:41 am ] |
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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: But a question. With no one willing to admit that they actually know what the middle class really is how can the left keep claiming that Ronald Reagan's fiscal policies were designed to destroy it? Because Regan's policy of things like; eliminating company funded pensions in favour of a company tax credit for 401k contributions, or elimination of an inheritance tax, were meant to make the rich richer and the median income earners poorer. {looks around} And it worked. |
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| Author: | Prof_Chomsky [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:27 am ] |
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DrCaleb DrCaleb: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: But a question. With no one willing to admit that they actually know what the middle class really is how can the left keep claiming that Ronald Reagan's fiscal policies were designed to destroy it? Because Regan's policy of things like; eliminating company funded pensions in favour of a company tax credit for 401k contributions, or elimination of an inheritance tax, were meant to make the rich richer and the median income earners poorer. {looks around} And it worked.  
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| Author: | Freakinoldguy [ Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:21 pm ] |
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DrCaleb DrCaleb: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: But a question. With no one willing to admit that they actually know what the middle class really is how can the left keep claiming that Ronald Reagan's fiscal policies were designed to destroy it? Because Regan's policy of things like; eliminating company funded pensions in favour of a company tax credit for 401k contributions, or elimination of an inheritance tax, were meant to make the rich richer and the median income earners poorer. {looks around} And it worked. Trust me Doc, I believe you but, if you can figure out that the median income earners in our country were the middle class why can't our can't our Minister of the Middle Class? Like I said in my original post the middle class has always been defined by income and now suddenly this gov't can't figure out how much money people should have to be considered middle class. It seems like a pretty simple thing to measure but, for some reason our social engineering bureaucrats must have decided that measuring the middle class by wealth might show just how few middle class people we really have left in Canada. So, why not just claim we don't know what the middle class is rather than admitting gov't policies for the last 5 decades have led to the near extinction of the median income earners. It's actually a simple case of not being able to find just how far you have to move the goal posts to make yourself look good and it's embarrassing that any gov't would actually go public and show such ineptitude or political machination. |
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