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Author:  Newsbot [ Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That m
Title: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That made him a suspect.
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: BeaverFever
Date: 2020-03-07 17:39:53
Author:  Freakinoldguy [ Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:40 pm ]
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Big Brother much? The more this kind of crap happens the more I think going dark is the best course of action for any sane person.
Author:  DrCaleb [ Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:15 am ]
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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Big Brother much? The more this kind of crap happens the more I think going dark is the best course of action for any sane person.


And people like me saw this happening long ago. What I didn't see was the companies that make these products giving the data directly to police though.
Author:  Freakinoldguy [ Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:24 am ]
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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Big Brother much? The more this kind of crap happens the more I think going dark is the best course of action for any sane person.


And people like me saw this happening long ago. What I didn't see was the companies that make these products giving the data directly to police though.


I don't think anyone did. Nobody thought that the police and these companies would become this Orwellian or at least this soon. So, now you've got Alexa spying on you in your home and your android smart phone ratting out your movements to the police all thanks to that champion of personal privacy....... Google.
Author:  BeaverFever [ Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That m
I see this as a law enforcement problem more than a “big brother “ problem. In a just society this cyclist shouldn’t have had anything to fear and should have had confidence that the cops would clear him once they reviewed the facts, which is ultimately what happened here. To be fair, I can’t really blame the cops for wanting info on someone who was seemingly at the scene of a crime 3 times during the time that the crime occurred and once they saw the full data that showed he was cyclist who lived in the area and this was part of his regular route they cleared him. Despite the article’s title I’m still a little unclear as to whether he was formally a suspect or simply a person of interest.

However given the propensity of cops to completely railroad innocent people and ignore evidence that doesn’t support their biases and foregone conclusions, this cyclist was more than justified in fearing for his safety and lawyering up. Police and prosecutors are simply too free to act recklessly and with total impunity, in Canada too but doubly so in the US.

One of the linked stories in the article is about an innocent man with no criminal history wrongfully arrested for murder under similar circumstances, after cops zeroed in on his google account that tagged him at the scene of the crime (the real killer was his stepfather, who had his old phone and it was still signed in to the son’s google account). Make sure you properly wipe your devices before you give them away!

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/go ... a-11426374

In that case the cops were horribly negligent not only did they refuse to consider evidence presented that exonerated the accused, they also refused to consider evidence presented that pointed to the real perpetrator. Even when they finally accepted that they had the wrong guy in custody they knowingly let him rot in jail for another week before they got around to releasing him. There ought to be a law that requires release of a cleared suspect within the hour, not whenever the hell you feel like getting around to doing the paperwork. But even in that travesty of a case, the google data did ultimately lead them to the correct killer, who would otherwise have not been identified. The cops were just incompetent overzealous assholes who refused to let go of their tunnel vision despite clear evidence to the contrary.
Author:  DrCaleb [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That m
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I see this as a law enforcement problem more than a “big brother “ problem.


You know they are the same things, right? "Big Brother" is The State. The police are the law enforcement arm of "The State".

And now they admit to using Clearview AI. Facial recognition has a terrible track record, especially with non-white faces.

What could go wrong?
Author:  BeaverFever [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That m
My point is if law enforcement wasn’t so reckless and irresponsible it shouldn’t be a big deal for them to use google data to catch the guilty parties. But unfortunately we live in a society where cops and prosecutors can’t be trusted to do their jobs properly.
Author:  PublicAnimalNo9 [ Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:54 am ]
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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Big Brother much? The more this kind of crap happens the more I think going dark is the best course of action for any sane person.


And people like me saw this happening long ago. What I didn't see was the companies that make these products giving the data directly to police though.


I don't think anyone did. Nobody thought that the police and these companies would become this Orwellian or at least this soon. So, now you've got Alexa spying on you in your home and your android smart phone ratting out your movements to the police all thanks to that champion of personal privacy....... Google.
I did. It's the only reason I have refused to own a cell-phone or any other portable device. It's also the same reason that despite my PC being a wheezing 10-11 years old now, I haven't replaced it. It still does what I want it to do. They can trace my internet history all they want though. Anybody looking through it would probably suffer some form of confused boredom. :lol:
Author:  BeaverFever [ Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:29 pm ]
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Anybody looking through it would probably suffer some form of confused boredom. :lol:


I always wondered who the hell watches “soft-core” porn. . Now I know! :D
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