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The idea that jurors felt threatened doesn't really hold water. The same could be said for any number of similar past trials, where jurors let the cop(s) walk. Rodney King comes to mind. Or Breonna Taylor. Lots of others.

Ben Shapiro is a stupid person's idea of an intellectual.

Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking.

rickc rickc:

Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking.

No rick. No one is thinking that. You are absolutely right, that there are pressures on the jury to do the right thing.

But if I were a juror, it would make no difference to me that it's a white cop and black man. I can see the video. I know that it was wrong. I know it was murder.

Everyone was thinking that the jury had to do the right thing, and look objectively at the evidence to come to the same conclusion that we all came to. What they couldn't do was ignore the evidence because Chauvin was white, or because he was a cop.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

rickc rickc:

Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking.

Lets take the color out of the equation. Lets say the cop and the deceased were both black, or both white. Lets say that the defense produced 100 medical professionals that stated for a fact that Floyd died from a drug overdose. People on probation/parole go back to prison for drug arrests. Lets say that Floyd saw the cops coming, and ate his stash. Lets say that the coroner positively said the death was a drug overdose. The knee on the neck/back played no part whatsoever. Would you still say guilty? I would because the cop seems to totally lack empathy. His eyes have that lifeless look like a shark has when he is biting you in half. Its not personal to the shark, he is just doing his thing. This cop could not care less that a human is dying in his presence. There were trained medical professionals in the crowd that wanted to take a look at Floyd. The cops said no. That decision alone should buy every cop on that scene some lengthy prison time. Refusing anyone medical care should NOT be allowed by mere cops. That would be like the janitor at a corporation giving orders to the CEO.

My take on what Gutfeld said is that he would rather see this asshole cop go to prison (even if his knee played zero part in Floyd's death) than see the country explode into civil war. I agree with Gutfeld a thousand percent.

My take on what Gutfeld said is that he would rather see this asshole cop go to prison (even if his knee played zero part in Floyd's death) than see the country explode into civil war. I agree with Gutfeld a thousand percent.

A knee on the back can compress your lungs and asphyxiate you in the same fashion a knee on your neck would. It's pretty simple, if you lungs cannot expand, you cannot draw breath.

He'd be guilty of a different charge. Negligence causing death or something like that. He wouldn't be guilty of murder.

This is what I feel like Gutfeld is saying: he would rather see this POS go to jail (even if the coroner ruled that the knee was not the cause of death) than see the country burn. I wholeheartedly agree. Many of my countrymen agree.

Author:	Tricks [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:29 am ]
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Zipperfish Zipperfish: The idea that jurors felt threatened doesn't really hold water. The same could be said for any number of similar past trials, where jurors let the cop(s) walk. Rodney King comes to mind. Or Breonna Taylor. Lots of others. Ben Shapiro is a stupid person's idea of an intellectual. I also like them saying Biden saying something when the jury was sequestered but ignore Trump always commenting on his cronies trials was pretty funny.

Author:	llama66 [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:56 pm ]
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The Joy of Hypocrites, it's only a problem if someone else does it.

Author:	bootlegga [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:43 pm ]
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Scape Scape: Greg Gutfield is the same douchebag who trashed the Canadian Army back in 2009, then issue a half-assed apology for it. That guy can go fuck himself.

Author:	rickc [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:46 pm ]
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Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking. If this happened in the whitest state in the U.S. with zero blacks to riot, and I was on the jury, I would vote guilty because I believe that the cop IS guilty. The fact that this cop knows that he is being recorded (he is staring into the camera) as a group of citizens (who pay his salary) are pleading for a mans life, and he just does NOT give a fuck.........that arrogance alone is worthy of some prison time. Now lets say that EVERY medical professional at the trial stated for a fact that a drug overdose of fentanyl (that was eaten to avoid being arrested for possession while on probation) was in fact 100% responsible for the death? What do you do then? If I am on the jury in this all white town than I am in a pickle. On one hand I want to see justice prevail. On the other hand I want to see this insufferable prick punished for his complete lack of human empathy. Do I claim that I really care about justice only to wrongly convict someone just because he is a total prick? Does that not make me a hypocrite? Sure it does! Can I live with being called a hypocrite? I have been called worse. Lets say that I live in an area that has lots of blacks that have been continuously rioting, looting, burning down properties, etc., etc. Its a no brainer. GUILTY AS HELL!!! 10 minutes deliberation tops. No way in hell am I going to let my own neighborhood burn to the ground and lose everything that I have worked for so some arrogant prick can go free. If I worked in the prison where he was being held and he was coming up on appeal, I would put a contract out on his ass. I would make a big loud show about some video cameras being out of commission for a few days and arrange to have this prick put into an unwatched area with about 20 crips. Problem solved. No release on appeal. No country burning to the ground. No unnecessary deaths over this asshole. Its like being told that there is a time machine that could only go back to 1901. If you could go back to 1901 and assassinate a 12 year old Adolf Hitler, would you do it? On one hand you are killing a small child. On the other you are saving the world untold suffering. What would you do? Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what a lot of us are thinking. Its real easy for some of you that are living in super safe areas that are not burning to the ground on a regular basis to claim that you would take the high road and say not guilty if all the evidence proved that the officer's knee did not cause the death. I would say guilty even in that case because the cop was a callous uncaring POS that needs some comeuppance. That is in an all white area. I would say it even faster in an area that has been getting rocked with riots. Thats the truth of the matter!!!

Author:	Scape [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:20 pm ]
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Author:	DrCaleb [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:24 pm ]
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rickc rickc: Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking. No rick. No one is thinking that. You are absolutely right, that there are pressures on the jury to do the right thing. But if I were a juror, it would make no difference to me that it's a white cop and black man. I can see the video. I know that it was wrong. I know it was murder. Everyone was thinking that the jury had to do the right thing, and look objectively at the evidence to come to the same conclusion that we all came to. What they couldn't do was ignore the evidence because Chauvin was white, or because he was a cop.

Author:	Thanos [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:33 pm ]
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After what he said about Canadian troops in Afghanistan I have Greg Gutfield down as one of the worst bottom-dwellers on FOX. He's pure shit, on the same level of malice as Hannity or Pirro or Carlson.

Author:	rickc [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:04 pm ]
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DrCaleb DrCaleb: rickc rickc: Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking. No rick. No one is thinking that. You are absolutely right, that there are pressures on the jury to do the right thing. But if I were a juror, it would make no difference to me that it's a white cop and black man. I can see the video. I know that it was wrong. I know it was murder. Everyone was thinking that the jury had to do the right thing, and look objectively at the evidence to come to the same conclusion that we all came to. What they couldn't do was ignore the evidence because Chauvin was white, or because he was a cop. Lets take the color out of the equation. Lets say the cop and the deceased were both black, or both white. Lets say that the defense produced 100 medical professionals that stated for a fact that Floyd died from a drug overdose. People on probation/parole go back to prison for drug arrests. Lets say that Floyd saw the cops coming, and ate his stash. Lets say that the coroner positively said the death was a drug overdose. The knee on the neck/back played no part whatsoever. Would you still say guilty? I would because the cop seems to totally lack empathy. His eyes have that lifeless look like a shark has when he is biting you in half. Its not personal to the shark, he is just doing his thing. This cop could not care less that a human is dying in his presence. There were trained medical professionals in the crowd that wanted to take a look at Floyd. The cops said no. That decision alone should buy every cop on that scene some lengthy prison time. Refusing anyone medical care should NOT be allowed by mere cops. That would be like the janitor at a corporation giving orders to the CEO. My take on what Gutfeld said is that he would rather see this asshole cop go to prison (even if his knee played zero part in Floyd's death) than see the country explode into civil war. I agree with Gutfeld a thousand percent.

Author:	llama66 [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:43 pm ]
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Murder is Murder, regardless of Colour.

Author:	Tricks [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:29 pm ]
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rickc rickc: DrCaleb DrCaleb: rickc rickc: Greg Gutfeld has the balls to publicly say what everyone is privately thinking. No rick. No one is thinking that. You are absolutely right, that there are pressures on the jury to do the right thing. But if I were a juror, it would make no difference to me that it's a white cop and black man. I can see the video. I know that it was wrong. I know it was murder. Everyone was thinking that the jury had to do the right thing, and look objectively at the evidence to come to the same conclusion that we all came to. What they couldn't do was ignore the evidence because Chauvin was white, or because he was a cop. Lets take the color out of the equation. Lets say the cop and the deceased were both black, or both white. Lets say that the defense produced 100 medical professionals that stated for a fact that Floyd died from a drug overdose. People on probation/parole go back to prison for drug arrests. Lets say that Floyd saw the cops coming, and ate his stash. Lets say that the coroner positively said the death was a drug overdose. The knee on the neck/back played no part whatsoever. Would you still say guilty? I would because the cop seems to totally lack empathy. His eyes have that lifeless look like a shark has when he is biting you in half. Its not personal to the shark, he is just doing his thing. This cop could not care less that a human is dying in his presence. There were trained medical professionals in the crowd that wanted to take a look at Floyd. The cops said no. That decision alone should buy every cop on that scene some lengthy prison time. Refusing anyone medical care should NOT be allowed by mere cops. That would be like the janitor at a corporation giving orders to the CEO. My take on what Gutfeld said is that he would rather see this asshole cop go to prison (even if his knee played zero part in Floyd's death) than see the country explode into civil war. I agree with Gutfeld a thousand percent. He'd be guilty of a different charge. Negligence causing death or something like that. He wouldn't be guilty of murder.

Author:	DrCaleb [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:31 pm ]
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rickc rickc: My take on what Gutfeld said is that he would rather see this asshole cop go to prison (even if his knee played zero part in Floyd's death) than see the country explode into civil war. I agree with Gutfeld a thousand percent. We can 'what if' all day long. What he said fits a pattern he has established for himself, so that what he actually meant was that if the BLM folks don't see this cop lynched, then cities will burn. Something that no one but people like him were talking about. Black folks just wanted a fair trial, with a fair outcome. The evidence spoke for itself. This guy is always about the implications, that 'the immigrants are here to replace the 'traditional' folks in this country', bla bla bla. He must be called on his bullshit at every opportunity. I think no one should ever stick a mic in his face again. I do not agree with anything that has ever oozed from Gutfields cake hole. If the knee played no part of Floyd's death, then the cop should not go to jail, even if cities burn. But that was never on the table. Gutfield wants you to think it was on the table, because that is how his kind operates. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. That is what he and his brethren in the white hoods peddle. As our resident dromedary stated, colour is irrelevant. Murder is murder. We should be astonished that there was even any doubt given the video evidence that Chauvins' sentence could have been anything else. But cops have been getting away with murder for years.

Author:	uwish [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:56 pm ]
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Author:	Sunnyways [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:48 pm ]
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bootlegga bootlegga: A knee on the back can compress your lungs and asphyxiate you in the same fashion a knee on your neck would. It's pretty simple, if you lungs cannot expand, you cannot draw breath. Exactly. After all, the upper back forms part of the cavity where the lungs reside. Any process causing a significant reduction in the flow of air from the mouth to pulmonary alveoli is potentially fatal. Martin Tobin was a great witness for the prosecution, a practising respiratory physician who picked up on multiple subtle details in the video. Pathologists and medical examiners should involve experts like him in the investigation of asphyxial deaths more often than they often do at the moment, especially when video evidence is available.

Author:	rickc [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:47 pm ]
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Tricks Tricks: He'd be guilty of a different charge. Negligence causing death or something like that. He wouldn't be guilty of murder. Exactly!!! That is a trick that some prosecutors use when a cop is charged with a crime. They overcharge knowing that a lot of jurors will give a cop the benefit of the doubt. Hey he did not "mean" to kill him, not guilty. If it does not work, than they have a good shot at getting it overturned on appeal. A higher court will overturn the verdict saying that he never should have been charged with that in the first place. What if you were on the jury and the only charge was murder? Would you have the integrity to say not guilty if the coroner ruled that the knee on the neck played no part in the death? That is how it is supposed to work. I would say guilty because I think that the cop is a despicable POS. I want to see some bad come his way. Even if he gets the sentence overturned, he will still have to spend some time in prison. Bad things happen in prison. No police department would want him on the force even if he did get it appealed, and that is a good thing. He has no business being a cop. Integrity be damned, I would say guilty. This is what I feel like Gutfeld is saying: he would rather see this POS go to jail (even if the coroner ruled that the knee was not the cause of death) than see the country burn. I wholeheartedly agree. Many of my countrymen agree.

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Author:	DrCaleb [ Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:58 am ]
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rickc rickc: This is what I feel like Gutfeld is saying: he would rather see this POS go to jail (even if the coroner ruled that the knee was not the cause of death) than see the country burn. I wholeheartedly agree. Many of my countrymen agree. Then you have exchanged a System of Justice for a System of Vengeance, where people can be punished because nobody likes them. That is the exact reason there are 3 branches of government in the Western system of Democracy, so that Political decisions cannot affect matters of Enforcement or Justice.