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Police forces said many young people were under the impression that the decriminalization bill had already passed and were smoking up more boldly than they've ever done before.

Clement says his government wants to clear up the uncertainty.

"There's been a lot of mixed messages going out about illicit drugs," he said in an interview yesterday after a symposium designed to bring together Canada's arts and health communities to combat mental health issues

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A long time ago and far far away when I was relatively young and gullible, I was ambivalent about this. Then one day, our base was subject to a threat and while this was occuring I happened to put my glasses on one of our mortar pits. A cool dude, noted for being high most of the time, I observed feeding the mortar, as he dropped the round down the tube backwards.

Tolerence ended there and then. Zero tolerance was/is my policy. At the risk of getting fragged I zealously enforced this. The camp got turned upside down----a 12 hour amnesty to dispose of any contraband including illicit liquor.

I have some tolerance for alcohol.

Perhaps it is cultural but then again, I have a zero tolerance for anyone with a boat, a vehicle, a firearm or any mechanical devise including a lawn mower.

The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln.

It is my contention that alcohol and gun-powder, gasoline and alcohol even electicity and alcohol are a dangerous mix------and they taste like crap.

Zipperfish

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The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln.

I dislike those who pray in church on sunday and on their neighbours all week long.

The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln.

The police in Vancouver often make reference to a hard core group of addicts who are committing upwards of 80% of the crime. These are the people that are protected, nurtured and supported by these addict support networks, and this is viewed as an alternative lifestyle, instead of a repeate criminal offenders.
These addicts are protected by the charter and they cannot be locked away or forced into drug treatment.
Can someone please explain the justice in that?

In the next few days, we're going to be back in the business of an anti-drug strategy," Clement told The Canadian Press.

Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa and Halifax all reported increases of between 20% and 50% in 2006 of arrests for possession of cannabis, compared with the previous year.

"The fact of the matter is they're unhealthy," he said.

Can someone please explain the justice in that?

Author:	Ripcat [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:51 am ]
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Stiffer penalties worked in the US, why can't it work here....rolly eyes... More treatment...you can only treat those who want to be treated... I don't see mention of more education and awareness... I believe that making pot legal would reduce the whole drug trade network allowing police to focus their resources on hard drugs. What did Ronald Reagan get from his "Just Say No" program and war on drugs? Crack, Extacy, crystal meth....

Author:	sasquatch2 [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:45 am ]
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$1: Police forces said many young people were under the impression that the decriminalization bill had already passed and were smoking up more boldly than they've ever done before. Clement says his government wants to clear up the uncertainty. "There's been a lot of mixed messages going out about illicit drugs," he said in an interview yesterday after a symposium designed to bring together Canada's arts and health communities to combat mental health issues A long time ago and far far away when I was relatively young and gullible, I was ambivalent about this. Then one day, our base was subject to a threat and while this was occuring I happened to put my glasses on one of our mortar pits. A cool dude, noted for being high most of the time, I observed feeding the mortar, as he dropped the round down the tube backwards. Tolerence ended there and then. Zero tolerance was/is my policy. At the risk of getting fragged I zealously enforced this. The camp got turned upside down----a 12 hour amnesty to dispose of any contraband including illicit liquor.

Author:	Robair [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:59 am ]
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sasquatch2 sasquatch2: $1: Police forces said many young people were under the impression that the decriminalization bill had already passed and were smoking up more boldly than they've ever done before. Clement says his government wants to clear up the uncertainty. "There's been a lot of mixed messages going out about illicit drugs," he said in an interview yesterday after a symposium designed to bring together Canada's arts and health communities to combat mental health issues A long time ago and far far away when I was relatively young and gullible, I was ambivalent about this. Then one day, our base was subject to a threat and while this was occuring I happened to put my glasses on one of our mortar pits. A cool dude, noted for being high most of the time, I observed feeding the mortar, as he dropped the round down the tube backwards. Tolerence ended there and then. Zero tolerance was/is my policy. At the risk of getting fragged I zealously enforced this. The camp got turned upside down----a 12 hour amnesty to dispose of any contraband including illicit liquor. I take it then, you are a prohibitionist as well? Ban alcohol?

Author:	sasquatch2 [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:06 am ]
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I have some tolerance for alcohol. Perhaps it is cultural but then again, I have a zero tolerance for anyone with a boat, a vehicle, a firearm or any mechanical devise including a lawn mower.

Author:	Brenda [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:07 am ]
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I take it you mean those mechanical devices in combination with alcohol?

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Author:	hurley_108 [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:07 am ]
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sasquatch2 sasquatch2: I have some tolerance for alcohol. Perhaps it is cultural but then again, I have a zero tolerance for anyone with a boat, a vehicle, a firearm or any mechanical devise including a lawn mower. Congratulations on 2000 pieces of drivel!

Author:	Zipperfish [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:10 am ]
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The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln.

Author:	bootlegga [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:20 am ]
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Like prostitution, I'd like to see marijuana legalized. It would increase federal tax revenues a fair bit and it would but a serious hurting on organized crime in this country. If only 1% of that money was funnelled back into police task forces cracking down on hard drugs, Canada would win a significant victory in the war on drugs.

Author:	sasquatch2 [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:32 am ]
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It is my contention that alcohol and gun-powder, gasoline and alcohol even electicity and alcohol are a dangerous mix------and they taste like crap. Zipperfish $1: The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln. I dislike those who pray in church on sunday and on their neighbours all week long.

Author:	Wada [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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sasquatch2 sasquatch2: It is my contention that alcohol and gun-powder, gasoline and alcohol even electicity and alcohol are a dangerous mix------and they taste like crap. Zipperfish $1: The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln. I dislike those who pray in church on sunday and on their neighbours all week long.

Author:	Robair [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:11 pm ]
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Zipperfish Zipperfish: The problem with people with no vices is that they have precious few virtues, to paraphrase Lincoln. Can't trust a man that doesn't drink. -The owner of the bar in my hometown

Author:	ridenrain [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:27 pm ]
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The police in Vancouver often make reference to a hard core group of addicts who are committing upwards of 80% of the crime. These are the people that are protected, nurtured and supported by these addict support networks, and this is viewed as an alternative lifestyle, instead of a repeate criminal offenders. These addicts are protected by the charter and they cannot be locked away or forced into drug treatment. Can someone please explain the justice in that?

Author:	sandorski [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:37 pm ]
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ridenrain ridenrain: The police in Vancouver often make reference to a hard core group of addicts who are committing upwards of 80% of the crime. These are the people that are protected, nurtured and supported by these addict support networks, and this is viewed as an alternative lifestyle, instead of a repeate criminal offenders. These addicts are protected by the charter and they cannot be locked away or forced into drug treatment. Can someone please explain the justice in that? There's not enough Drug Treatment available to take those wanting it. Never mind forcing others into it.

Author:	neopundit [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:57 pm ]
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Conservative fluff. $1: In the next few days, we're going to be back in the business of an anti-drug strategy," Clement told The Canadian Press. Right, because there are hundreds of examples about prohibition diminishing drug use. $1: Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa and Halifax all reported increases of between 20% and 50% in 2006 of arrests for possession of cannabis, compared with the previous year. Oh, so more arrests = higher drug use? Great logic. $1: "The fact of the matter is they're unhealthy," he said. If health is the issue then there is no rational argument for not prohibiting alcohol. How is it 2007 and people still believe you can stop people from doing something they want to do through legislation? How is it we have people in charge of our laws that believe marijuana and heroin are equally dangerous? It's insane.

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Author:	neopundit [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:00 pm ]
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ridenrain ridenrain: Can someone please explain the justice in that? The justice lies in the fact that until these people commit harm to a person other than themselves, I'd rather not have my tax money supporting him or her in jail or in rehab.