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Author:  Newsbot [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:52 pm ]
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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=27562" target="_blank">Soccer player's hijab sparks ejection</a> (click to view)

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<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-11-26 09:57:43
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Author:  martin14 [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:52 pm ]
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this one says yes, that one says no.. hmm.

CSA and FIFA says no, maybe someone should just tell the refs..

Author:  hurley_108 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:03 pm ]
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Thing is, if the ref allows her to play with the Hijab, and something DOES happen, as Hijabs are against the rules, the ref is civilly responsible for any injuries the player sustains. The refs should always err on the side of caution. The ref, in short, did absolutely nothing wrong, and all the previous refs were wrong. Yes, all of them.

I think the rule is a good one too. Safety is a serious matter on a sports field, especially at adolescent levels, and to allow this would undermine other safety rules like no rubber bracelets, no earrings, no rings or piercings. If you want to cover your hair, find some way to do it that works within the rules. Do not compromise the rules to appease some fringe group.

Author:  Wada [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:31 pm ]
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Lily it has to do with heading the ball. You aren't allowed anything on your head that might affect this play. :wink:

Author:  sasquatch2 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:34 pm ]
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It's not about safety, it's about a fringe group seeking to impose their bogus religious customs.

If these people are sincere in their customs, they should abide by the customs of the countires of origin which involve NO FEMALE SPORTS.

Author:  hurley_108 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:41 pm ]
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Wada wrote:
Lily it has to do with heading the ball. You aren't allowed anything on your head that might affect this play. :wink:


Interesting. I wonder if it's possible, then, to make a head scarf of any sort that would satisfy the rules.

Author:  Wada [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:47 pm ]
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Not that I'm aware of. You can't even wear a sweat band for this reason. :wink:

Author:  hurley_108 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:02 pm ]
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These are the laws regarding equipment:

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Safety
A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous
to himself or another player (including any kind of jewellery).

Basic Equipment
The basic compulsory equipment of a player comprises the following
separate items:
• a jersey or shirt – if undergarments are worn, the colour of the
sleeve should be the same main colour as the sleeve of the jersey
or shirt.
• shorts – if undershorts are worn, they are of the same main colour
as the shorts
• stockings
• shinguards
• footwear

Shinguards
• are covered entirely by the stockings
• are made of a suitable material (rubber, plastic, or similar substances)
• provide a reasonable degree of protection

Goalkeepers
• each goalkeeper wears colours that distinguish him from the other
players, the referee and the assistant referees

Infringements/Sanctions
For any infringement of this Law:
• play need not be stopped
• the player at fault is instructed by the referee to leave the fi eld of
play to correct his equipment
• the player leaves the fi eld of play when the ball next ceases to be
in play, unless he has already corrected his equipment
• any player required to leave the fi eld of play to correct his equipment
does not re-enter without the referee’s permission
• the referee checks that the player’s equipment is correct before
allowing him to re-enter the fi eld of play
• the player is only allowed to re-enter the fi eld of play when the
ball is out of play
A player who has been required to leave the fi eld of play because of
an infringement of this Law and who enters (or re-enters) the fi eld
of play without the referee’s permission is cautioned and shown the
yellow card.

Restart of Play
If play is stopped by the referee to administer a caution:
• the match is restarted by an indirect free kick taken by a player of
the opposing side, from the place where the ball was located when
the referee stopped the match * (see page 3)


Additional Rules regarding Equipment

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Basic equipment
Colours:
• All players including goalkeepers must wear a jersey with colours
that distinguish them from the referee and the assistant referees
• If the jerseys of the two goalkeepers are the same colour and neither
has another jersey to change into, the referee shall allow play
to begin
If a player loses his footwear accidentally and immediately plays the
ball and/or scores a goal, there is no infringement and the goal is
awarded because he lost his footwear by accident.
Goalkeepers may wear track suit bottoms as past as his basic equipment.

Other equipment
A player may use equipment other than the basic equipment provided
that its sole purpose is to protect him physically and it poses no danger
to him or any other player.
All items of clothing or equipment other than the basic equipment must
be inspected by the referee and determined not to be dangerous.
Modern protective equipment such as headgear, facemasks and knee
and arm protectors made of soft, lightweight padded material are not
considered dangerous and are therefore permitted.
In view of the new technology that has made sports spectacles much
safer, both for the wearer and for other players, referees should show
tolerance when authorising their use, particularly for younger players.
If an item of clothing or equipment that has been inspected at the start
of a match and determined not to be dangerous becomes dangerous
or is used in a dangerous manner during the match, its use must no
longer be allowed.
The use of radio communication systems between players and/or technical
staff is not permitted.


Source

So the hijab and toques are not allowed because they are not part of standard equipment and they do not ADD to safety.

Turbans keep long hair under control - they enhance safety. Hijabs probably do keep long hair under control too, but they also pose an additional safety risk of strangulation.

Author:  techedude [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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sasquatch2 wrote:
It's not about safety, it's about a fringe group seeking to impose their bogus religious customs.

If these people are sincere in their customs, they should abide by the customs of the countires of origin which involve NO FEMALE SPORTS.


I am sure we are all mature adults here so lets not be abusive to other religions. Those "religious customs" you talk about are there for a reason. I advise you to research and learn about it before you make such unfair comments. If you want, I can give you some site references that explains the purpose of the hijab.

As for the "NO FEMALE SPORTS" part, I have to correct you. That is a false statement. Women are able to play sports among themselves (that is around and with women). It isn't against Islam unless she is in a mixed gender sport.

Author:  newfette [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:22 pm ]
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if its against the rules.. then its a no go..


I'm so tired of people coming to canada and bitching because they dont get their own way...

if i went to Iraq and started to complain cause i couldn't say merry christmas I'd be shot!


Canada is a country based on christianity if you dont like it go back to where you came from...

just my opinion on the whold thing

Author:  Hyack [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:30 pm ]
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Vancouver Sun
Published: Wednesday, February 28, 2007


FIFA, which has worked at promoting women's soccer in Muslim countries, and which devotes an entire section of its website to anti-racism and anti-discrimination, doesn't ban religious or non-religious headscarves, provided they don't represent a danger to players.

Indeed, FIFA even includes pictures of players wearing head coverings to clarify what is permitted, and states that head gear made of soft, lightweight, padded material is not dangerous and is therefore permitted.

Author:  Wada [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:34 pm ]
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Well it looks like things have changed regarding headwear. As for long hair, I played for many years soccer, rugby, basketball, racketball, tennis and so on with hair down to my ass and never had a problem with it and wearing protection like a helmet for soccer is pitiful and unfair the same with a turbin.

Author:  YetiWorld [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:32 pm ]
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We've had this discussion before.
About the judo-girl.
And we'll have it over and over again.

What annoyes me is that if I was living in, say, Saudi Arabia, or any other country where muslims are a mayority, I'd have to abide by their rules and customs.
So: I'd have to wear at least a headscarve and cover arms and legs.
At least.
And that would be fine, 'cause it would be my choice to live there.
And I'm sure it would not be appreciated, which is an understatement, if I would dress or behave as I would in a secular country. And my Christian religion, background or culture would not considered to be an excuse to behave or dress otherwise.

So imo when you come to live in a country that has other morale standards, other dresscodes, another religious background you abide by the rules of that country.

For me, but also for a muslim, a Sikh, a Hindu or a Jehova witness
You can do as you please behind you frontdoor (within reason), but outside you adjust.

And I haven't got a clue on how to get this message across without making these people cry wolfe about being discriminated.
Because that's not what's going on.

Author:  YetiWorld [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:01 pm ]
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lily wrote:
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And that would be fine, 'cause it would be my choice to live there.
And I'm sure it would not be appreciated, which is an understatement, if I would dress or behave as I would in a secular country. And my Christian religion, background or culture would not considered to be an excuse to behave or dress otherwise.

Can you give some examples of what sort of behaviour or dress is dictated by your Christianity?

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So imo when you come to live in a country that has other morale standards, other dresscodes, another religious background you abide by the rules of that country.

Canada doesn't have a dresscode that others need to abide by.



Now don't tell me that a smart woman like you doesn't get the message of what I am saying.
Or is splitting hairs your new parole :roll:

Author:  sasquatch2 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:56 pm ]
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techedude
As for the "NO FEMALE SPORTS" part, I have to correct you. That is a false statement. Women are able to play sports among themselves (that is around and with women). It isn't against Islam unless she is in a mixed gender sport.

False? The Saudi and Pakistani female athletes are dominating the Olympics?

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