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Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  PQ praises Canada's recognition of Kosovo

From http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/n ... 4f&k=20399

So, as I said, Canada's recognition of Kosovo is ill-advised and harmful to Serbia. And in the interests of Karmic payback....

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The Parti Québécois seized on the federal government's decision yesterday to recognize Kosovo as an independent state, seeing a parallel with its own goal of making Quebec a country independent of Canada.

Author:  fire_i [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:21 am ]
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The contrary would have been surprising.

Author:  romanP [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:39 am ]
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So, remind me, what was the big deal in 1997?

Author:  stemmer [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PQ praises Canada's recognition of Kosovo

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
From http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/n ... 4f&k=20399

So, as I said, Canada's recognition of Kosovo is ill-advised and harmful to Serbia. And in the interests of Karmic payback....

$1:
The Parti Québécois seized on the federal government's decision yesterday to recognize Kosovo as an independent state, seeing a parallel with its own goal of making Quebec a country independent of Canada.


So....It would be better for Canada to stand alongside Russia, China & France (as Canada did on Iraq) and against our American friends and ally?

I think NOT...

This was a prime time for Canada to stand with America and undo some of the harm Chretien did over Iraq. It was a time to prove who your real friends and allies are...

Author:  romanP [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:07 am ]
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Whatever "harm" that was done over Iraq was worth causing.

Author:  martin14 [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:19 am ]
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stemmer, if you could read a little of the history of Serbia,

you would realize what a mistake is being made here, instead of just

blindly following the American line.

I support the US about 95% of the time, but not on this one..

consider this; if the PQ is so f^%$ing happy,

doesnt that tell you something is wrong ??

Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PQ praises Canada's recognition of Kosovo

stemmer stemmer:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
From http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/n ... 4f&k=20399

So, as I said, Canada's recognition of Kosovo is ill-advised and harmful to Serbia. And in the interests of Karmic payback....

$1:
The Parti Québécois seized on the federal government's decision yesterday to recognize Kosovo as an independent state, seeing a parallel with its own goal of making Quebec a country independent of Canada.


So....It would be better for Canada to stand alongside Russia, China & France (as Canada did on Iraq) and against our American friends and ally?

I think NOT...

This was a prime time for Canada to stand with America and undo some of the harm Chretien did over Iraq. It was a time to prove who your real friends and allies are...


Canada taking a stand against the partition of Serbia has no effect on US interests or security. Frankly, the only interests being served in Kosovo are the imperial ambitions of the Albanians (who are angling to steal Greek Macedonia next) and those of European industrialists who want control of the strategic tin mine in Kosovo.

Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:31 am ]
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romanP romanP:
So, remind me, what was the big deal in 1997?


The big deal was the Bill Clinton was caught with his pants down and he needed a war to distract people from his impending impeachment. :idea:

Author:  romanP [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:57 am ]
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
romanP romanP:
So, remind me, what was the big deal in 1997?


The big deal was the Bill Clinton was caught with his pants down and he needed a war to distract people from his impending impeachment. :idea:


But it wasn't a purely American mission. In fact, it was a NATO mission. So why were we trying to liberate Kosovo from Serbia if that is now the wrong thing to have done, for no reason that I can fathom other than "Serbia doesn't like it."

Author:  martin14 [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:03 pm ]
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So why were we trying to liberate Kosovo from Serbia if that is now the wrong thing to have done, for no reason that I can fathom other than "Serbia doesn't like it."



because there were manufactured stories about "millions" of Albanians

being expelled from Kosovo, "tens of thousands" being murdered,

and all those uneducated illiterate Muslims were going to be

refugees in Europe, which is kind of full at the moment.

Better to keep them where they were, in Kosovo.

Fact is yes some were being killed and 'ethnically cleasned'

but not as many as was reported..

it was not wrong to give Milosovic a kick in the teeth,

but an indepedent Kosovo is not the solution.

Author:  fire_i [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:36 pm ]
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Personally, as there was no referendum, I do not see why Canada should recognize Kosovo, at least until the UN itself officially declares it a country. Then sure.

And of course, had there been a winning referendum, I'd have been the first one to jump and say "recognize it!" - but there wasn't, so I'm not sure why Canada bothered to say anything other than "we'll recognize it once and if the UN does, too".

Author:  stemmer [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:58 pm ]
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fire_i fire_i:
Personally, as there was no referendum, I do not see why Canada should recognize Kosovo, at least until the UN itself officially declares it a country. Then sure.

And of course, had there been a winning referendum, I'd have been the first one to jump and say "recognize it!" - but there wasn't, so I'm not sure why Canada bothered to say anything other than "we'll recognize it once and if the UN does, too".


So we MUST follow the will of the UN... I say NO... I do not believe in the lies of the UN... I do not believe in their new world order....

Author:  stemmer [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:00 pm ]
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BartSimpson
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Canada taking a stand against the partition of Serbia has no effect on US interests or security.


OH REALLY!!!!... And what is the US's stand on Kosovo?

What is Canada's stand on Kosovo? Sounds like to me we Canadians stand shoulder to shoulder with our American brothers on this very key issue...

Besides any side Putin is on, I'm taking the opposite side....

Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:12 pm ]
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stemmer stemmer:
BartSimpson
$1:
Canada taking a stand against the partition of Serbia has no effect on US interests or security.


OH REALLY!!!!... And what is the US's stand on Kosovo?

What is Canada's stand on Kosovo? Sounds like to me we Canadians stand shoulder to shoulder with our American brothers on this very key issue...

Besides any side Putin is on, I'm taking the opposite side....


The USA's entire involvement in the Balkans has had utterly nothing to do with US national or even economic security. Bear in mind, please, that I was in the US military at the time of the war and I never once had an explanation of what vital US interest was being represented by our involvement there.

At this point all we have accomplished is the expansion of muslim Albania.

And just because Putin is a jerk does not make him wrong on everything.

Author:  westmanguy [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:13 pm ]
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Good we recognized Kosovo.

All our allies have, we needed too.

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