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Author:  Newsbot [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  World's largest water bomber pitched by U.S. firm

Title: World's largest water bomber pitched by U.S. firm
Category: Tech
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-07-28 17:22:21
Canadian

Author:  samkorn [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:44 pm ]
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Buy Canadian, and stick to the water bombers manufactured by Bombardier Aerospace in Montreal!!
Let's show those Yanks that two can play at this game; they're not buying water bombers from us, so why should we buy from them?
Remember the Avro Arrow!!

Author:  Hyack [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: World's largest water bomber pitched by U.S. firm

Only problem there is this puppy can carry more than 10 times the load of the Bombardier 415....6,140 litres compared to 77,000 litres for the Evergreen.

Author:  samkorn [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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Yeah, but the Bombardier CL-415 can probably make 10 passes or more to scoop up as many loads from just about any body of water, and deliver them with pinpoint accuracy to the target, in the time it takes the Evergreen to land at an airport with a runway long enough to accomodate a jumbo-jet, be tanked up once, take off and reach it's target.
The CL-415 is the only amphibious firefighting aircraft in the world specifically designed and built for that purpose!
BUY CANADIAN!! [flag]

Author:  saturn_656 [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:49 pm ]
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747 waterbombers?

The idea seems like a non starter...

Author:  Robair [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: World's largest water bomber pitched by U.S. firm

saturn_656 saturn_656:
747 waterbombers?

The idea seems like a non starter...

Agreed.
samkorn samkorn:
Yeah, but the Bombardier CL-415 can probably make 10 passes or more to scoop up as many loads from just about any body of water, and deliver them with pinpoint accuracy to the target, in the time it takes the Evergreen to land at an airport with a runway long enough to accomodate a jumbo-jet, be tanked up once, take off and reach it's target.
The CL-415 is the only amphibious firefighting aircraft in the world specifically designed and built for that purpose!
BUY CANADIAN!! [flag]

Agreed.

Author:  ridenrain [ Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:07 pm ]
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Evergreen aviation played a huge part in Air America during the Vietnam war, among a great number of things. It's a very unique company and their museum is a must see for aviation buffs. They finally have the Spruce Goose on display.
http://www.sprucegoose.org/

Author:  ridenrain [ Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:13 am ]
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came accross this..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fa_1249219926

Author:  QBall [ Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:29 am ]
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Converting a 747 for water bomber duties seems like the worst possible option to me. It's like trying to convince someone that a Lamborghini LP670 would make a great commuter vehicle. The cost to purchase, fly and maintain one of them would probably be the equivalent of purchasing a small fleet of the ones Bombardier puts out. Plus the nearest airport that can service the plane maybe be several hundred kilometers from the fire. I can't believe someone thought this was a good business idea, especially in the current economic situation.

Author:  bootlegga [ Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:45 am ]
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It's too big for most firebases to use anyways.

$1:
"First of all, the type and size of air tanker that would be needed. Currently our bases would not sustain an aircraft of that size," she said.

The province also attacks fires when they are newly detected and smaller in size, Drummond said. The province's smaller planes are more easily manoeuvrable through the foothills and mountainous areas in Alberta, she said.

Author:  ridenrain [ Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:16 am ]
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As the video suggested, a couple would do and they would use air force bases that are liberally spread around the US. Do remember, this is a US idea, not Canadian.

Author:  Canadian_Mind [ Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:52 am ]
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yea, we haven't had an abundant number of airbases in our country since WWII. And even those can't all handle a 747 should they all be reactivated.

Author:  saturn_656 [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:23 am ]
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ridenrain ridenrain:
As the video suggested, a couple would do and they would use air force bases that are liberally spread around the US. Do remember, this is a US idea, not Canadian.


But it is an idea they are trying to sell to us. Water bombers based at USAF installations in the states are not that useful to us.

Author:  bootlegga [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:09 am ]
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ridenrain ridenrain:
As the video suggested, a couple would do and they would use air force bases that are liberally spread around the US. Do remember, this is a US idea, not Canadian.


That they are trying to sell to us as well.

Author:  ridenrain [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:38 am ]
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Who is? Schreiber? :D

It's way too big for one province so maybe if Alberta and BC shared it..
Bottom line is that water bombers are rin by private companies so it's their call.

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