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Author:  Korked [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left

What the heck is the 'regressive left'? Well IMO it is as I understand Liberals who have long ago abandoned Liberal Principals for the sake of Censoring Offensive Posts and for the sake of party Political Correctness...they are no longer the Liberals of Truman era or MLK times or JFK and his brother or the Vietnam protests...they are the New Left who forgot the ideals of the old Liberal Left movement.

It's a story of these new left people who preach about tolerance and morality without even practicing it, whining about non-issues like "muh representation", "muh objectification" and silly stuff like that and rich white American kids with massive messiah complex...its also a story that is getting out of control in Canada and Europe. There also seem to be an online internet forum backlash or Twitter backlash against the Regressive Left, loud online personalities like AronRa who go online to post about their causes such as the ills of feminism progressivism or posting websites on might seem like nothing but some of these internet personalities now have thousands and thousands of followers, that's more than any politician from the US Congress or some so called Liberal leader in Europe. Also in reaction against the left we now see the growth of the rightwing parties and the growth of Nationalism, but how wacky are things in Europe? How insane can the likes of France be in regards to their immigration policy from the Middle East?
Take the Left in Sweden for example may not seem Liberal but instead remind you of a funny scifi horror of The Children of the Corn...but has the Left truly deformed to this comical level? Or is this thread just a silly joke?

Before Atheists and Liberals used to mostly spend all their time mostly bashing Rightwing Southern Christians....seems now the tide is turning and they are about to unleash emails and websites full of 'hellfire missiles'...if you'll excuse the pun against Islam and they are about to start bashing wacky radical Muslims like a game of whack o' mole

Leading the charge seem to be Muslim-Apostates and ex-Islamists and ex-Muslims....who have now turned their back on their radical idiots and muslim apologists

I bring you the subject of the Regressive Left or the Regressive Leftists

The “regressive left” was originally coined by Maajid Nawaz an ex-radical himself who left radical Islam, he used the term regressive to describe a certain subset of liberals who, in an effort to appear tolerant and culturally sensitive, try to shut down any criticism of Islam or Islamism by calling it “Islamophobia” or racism. The term has expanded over time to include those who push for trigger warnings, safe spaces, who promote the idea that we are living in some sort of rape culture. In Europe you can also find regressive left feminists, whether it’s picking on the most pretty girl in class, or blaming every human male for their morning bout of constipation, these crazy feminists are some kind of fierce anti-woman women. Oh and how they love islam while shrieking about rape culture in the United States of America.

watch this space

Author:  Korked [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left

Regressive Left
It may also describe leftish celebrities like Chomsky, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Michael Moore

Look to England and the British system ... .html?_r=0

Mr. Corbyn, who has been in the House of Commons since 1983, is an old-fashioned, unapologetic socialist. Compared to Senator Bernie Sanders, he is, in many respects, even more radical. Imagine if a figure like Noam Chomsky or Michael Moore were in Congress and became the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for the White House.

The Masochists Who Defend Sadists: The Regressive Left in Theory and Practice ... -practice/

What defines the regressive left? It is the same assumption of Western culpability and confusion between friends and enemies that led to left-wing support for genocide denial in the 1990s and for the resistance in Iraq. In his excellent collaboration with Sam Harris, Islam and the Future of Tolerance, Nawaz shows that the regressive left “leap(s) whenever any (not merely their own) liberal democratic government commits a policy error, while generally ignoring almost every fascist, theocratic or Muslim-led dictatorial regime and group in the world.”

In doing so, the regressive left has abandoned the people in the Muslim world it is supposed to be defending: the Muslim liberals, the Muslim feminists, the Muslim homosexuals, the ex-Muslims and atheists, the secular bloggers in Bangladesh, and the raped and tortured Yazidis, to name just a few.

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Pilger had a lot of other friends, too. Radicals and populists such as Michael Moore, Tariq Ali, Arundhati Roy, and the Stop the War Coalition came out to support the resistance, oppose the United States, and demonstrate their commitment to barbarism.

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In 2014, John Pilger was invited to the annual Festival of Dangerous Ideas in Sydney, a conference of free thought and debate. His discussion was titled Breaking Australia’s Silence, and he spoke about our ‘secret’ history, our colonial sins, and our collusion with Western imperialism and its depredations. Standard fare, really. The moderator invited questions from the audience. Here is the text of the first question and answer:

Audience member: Do you think that the West should ever get involved in wars overseas . . ?

Because it feels despite our misadventures in the 2003 Iraq war and despite the problems that we’ve caused . . it feels like you’re saying . . we should just let ISIS kill whoever they want to kill and commit genocide however they wish to . . . don’t we still have a moral responsibility to help the people who have been beheaded, killed and crucified on the streets of Syria and Iraq right now?

Pilger: It’s interesting about this hideous beheading, isn’t it? . . . How much do you know about the beheading of Aboriginal people in the early days of this country?

Can the reader imagine the reaction? Of course you can. The audience broke into rapturous applause. Pilger retorted that the Iraq war cost hundreds of thousands of lives, and he was right. He didn’t mention, though, that the primary cause of those deaths was the united forces of Ba’athism and jihadism, the thugs and fanatics and friends of John Pilger and the Western Left. The questioner was berated for being “very selective”, but the irony, like everything else, was at Pilger’s expense.

Joe Rogan take him with a pinch of salt

A youtube account Raging-Golden-Eagle, says he's an ex-Conservative and now liberal and he now describes 'useful idiots' and 'social justice warriors' and claims the Left and Right have now flipped positions...before the Right wanted to censor the internet during the time of Bush but now the Left wants to censor all it doesn't like
He describes a liberal who was banned by his own people in a free speech debate and how to break the RightLeft Paradigm or break the brainwashed tv zombie Democrat-vs-Republican Paradigm

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The Guardian Shuts Down Reader Comments as the Left’s War on Dissent Continues ... continues/

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Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins Rip ‘Regressive Leftists’ Giving a ‘Free Pass’ to Islam

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and again

Stephen Fry Deactivates Twitter After Being Attacked for ‘Sexist’ Joke ... xist-joke/

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left

Talk of the regressive left is most noticeable on YouTube right now.

It's starting to spill out into the mainstream though, and I don't think it's going away.

People ignoring it now will be talking about it soon like they knew about it all along, and were in on the counter-regressive movement at the grassroots level.

It's going to be so hilarious when the Progs Regressives start talking like they are against those damned "Regressives."

For God's sakes Liberals don't fall for it a second time. You were hijacked once. Don't fall for it again.

Author:  sandorski [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:20 am ]
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I find it an ill defined term. More a label tossed around to dismiss someone, kinda like how some Feminists just start calling people Misogynist for voicing an opposing opinion. Your attempts to define it by just tossing a variety of groups into the same basket and applying the label to all of them makes my skeptic senses tingle.

Author:  Korked [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:41 am ]
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sandorski sandorski:
I find it an ill defined term.

Did a quick search on the net, checking blogs, websites and the online forums

I think you will find all these blogs and online threads follow a very similar subject and topic discussion

Feminism Revisited: The Regressive Left, “Meninist” Creeps & Crappy Feminists ... feminists/

Regressive leftists and Islam apology ... apology/p1

The Left Hates It When Real People Make Their Opinions Known ... =3470503.0

Any other lefties here who think...Well yes I condemn Islam as a whole but I don't condemn all Muslims. I know that sounds odd but there are good people who are Muslims 'despite' their religion. The big pile of BS we're being sold is that it's a tiny % of Muslims who do all the bad stuff. ... 3972102/23

The Left’s Embrace of Islamic RapeWhy progressives are sacrificing their own women on the altar of utopian ideals. Introduction: As the disturbing reports pour in about the New Year’s Eve Muslim sex assaults in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland and other European countries, it has become clear that the new Utopian Multicultural Europe that the Left has worked so hard to build is now here. Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker’s response to the assaults under her watch has been to reprimand the victims, suggesting that they had asked for it. She has vowed to make sure that women will change their behavior, so that they don’t provoke Muslims to sexually assault them again. There will now be published “online guidelines” for women to read so they can prepare themselves. One wonders if it will be the burqa or the niqab that will be the solution of choice.

These eerie developments are, of course, completely in line with why Naomi Wolf finds the hijab “sexy" and why Oslo Professor of Anthropology Dr. Unni Wikan’s solution for the high incidence of Muslims raping Norwegian women is not for the rapists to be punished, but for Norwegian women to “take their share of responsibility” for the rapes because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. Norwegian women, she has counseled, “must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

We are also now aware that German police fired water cannons at German protesters in Cologne who gathered to protest the rapes and sexual assaults committed by the Muslim refugees. Right, it is not the Muslim migrants who committed sex assaults that are being shot at with water cannons, but those who feel that what they did violates women’s rights and western values. ... mie-glazov

An ex-Muslim speaker, speaking on religious extremism was intimidated by members of the Islamic Society. The Islamic society is now demanding the you tube video be taken down as it causing islomophobia. ... im-speaker

The Shame and the Disgrace of the Pro-Islamist Left. By supporting fundamentalists, the Left simply chooses one camp in a political struggle without acknowledging it. ... mist-left/

The British Left’s Hypocritical Embrace of Islamism

Nick Cohen and Dave Rubin Discuss the Regressive Left, Free Speech, Radical Islam

Social justice warriors and feminism, poster boys of the regressive liberals ... -liberals/

Author:  BeaverFever [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:33 am ]
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Using the word "regressive" makes no sense. Some members of the new Rob Ford/Sarah Palin right-wing ignoratti movement use the word just because "regresive" is the opposite word of "progressive" and so is supposed to be an insult. :roll:

Regressive means to undo recent changes, which is exactly what conservatives are always calling for. Regressive is almost a perfect synonym for conservative, which itself means to resist change and new ways of doing things. Conservatives should proudly refer to themselves as regressive and should tell people that regression is a good thing.

Conversely, liberals advocate for change and new ways of doing things, whether for better or for worse. That is the definition of progressive. Progress doesn't necessarily have to mean something good - it only means movement towards something. Conservatives should proudly tell people that liberals are progressives and progressives are evil.

Now because in our everyday conversation, we tend to refer to progress as something positive and regression as something negative, this new idiot movement withing the right wing has just starting using the opposite word but like almost everything that comes out of their uneducated mouths, it makes no sense.

Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:10 am ]
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The totality of how wrong you are is difficult to express, Beave.

No side of the right has anything to do with the new term "Regressive." That's all on liberals. I have heard a couple of libertarians starting to adopt it, and I use it sometimes, but for me it's more for fun. It's rubbing Progressives noses in the fact Liberals are starting to get wise to them.

Your definition of Progress as movement towards something is silly when something can mean "anything" and anything can mean backwards. And yes, that's what Regressive means.

The Regressive is about the deconstruction of existing standards and values and replacing them with whining demands for personal power. It's why liberals are starting to rebel.

Turns out regressivism is a kind insanity that doesn't know where to stop. Secular humanism is starting to feel the pressure of being deconstructed and it's adherents are starting to say, "wait a minute."

But we on the right didn't come up with that label of Regressive. We noticed the phenomena a long time ago, of course, but we called them Progressives. Mostly because that's what they were calling themselves. I personally called them "Progs", but again that was mostly for fun. Mostly. :wink:

Author:  BartSimpson [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:23 am ]
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The left started to lose when they started to be mocked by their children.

Author:  raydan [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:46 pm ]
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Since everybody's different, we should have a unique label for everybody. :D

Author:  BeaverFever [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:54 pm ]
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The left started to lose when they started to be mocked by their children.

Given that just about EVERY generation in modern history has been more liberal than the one that preceded it (yes, even yours) it would seem that to be conservative is to be mocked by your children. Oh, and also that "progress" is inevitable.

Author:  Thanos [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:49 pm ]
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I've decided that there is no real feminism anymore, just a bunch of worthless millenial females stabbing each other in the back at any opportunity they get. They flip out over things like Ghomeshi, who turns out to be just a cretinous little man who didn't do anything that even came close to assault if his alleged victims still tried to maintain contact with him afterwards. Or accusing frat boys of rape, even after some of these offenses turn out to be completely false. The real kick was the throwing under the bus of all the female victims of out of control Muslim males in Cologne on NYE, as well as the steady drumbeat of denial being supported by organized feminism that there is no problem at all in allowing millions of undisciplined savages from a monstrously patriarchal/male-supremacist Islamic culture into secular and moderate Europe. It's just the omelette theory being played with human lives again, in this case where leftist feminism has officially decided that racism and their own white males are so awful that they're openly willing to sacrifice other women, in numbers beyond counting too, to rape and murder at the hands of Muslim males.

It's said that all ideologies eventually eat themselves. Right now it's the turn of the type of post-1960's "white people are all evil" mentality that the left's been playing at for over sixty years to fall apart. The left is now totally reactionary, still biting like a dying rat at it's old enemy even as the worst totalitarianism that's ever existed in Islam is on the rise to wipe out the left, center, and right altogether. The death of an ideology is not pleasant. It's kind of like watching an elderly dementia patient shit it's diapers as it's brain shuts off and it becomes increasingly erratic on a day by day basis until it finally expires.

Author:  BeaverFever [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:12 pm ]
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^ Long-winded rant with many factual errors, such as feminists supporting false rape accusations. More specifically, women's groups have been pretty outspoken against sexual assaults reportedly committed against Migrants and apparent lack of response by authorities.

It's also pretty comical to call the left "reactionary" when you look at the Republican primary circus, the clown leading the race, the Tea Party movement, and the insanity that the right has put on display for more than a decade now.

Neither Hillary, nor Obama, nor Sanders, nor Truedeau nor Mulcair, nor any other figure of the North American left wing displays any of the supposed left wing behaviour you describe. Instead you find some story of some idiot student activist or obscure writer and claim it to be typical of the left and its leadership. Just another disingenuous tactic of the right.

Author:  Thanos [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:22 pm ]
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Or the female mayor of Cologne, whose advice was keep at arm's length and stop dressing like sluts, because it's wrong and it's racist to expect those boys to control themselves. :roll:

Author:  BeaverFever [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:57 pm ]
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The mayor of Cologne is the leader of all feminist and left-of-centre groups worldwide and is their spokesperson now?

Author:  Thanos [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:59 pm ]
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No, but she put the mentality of the modern left on full display with a memorably spectacular performance, even by contemporary liberals, of "it's never the criminal's fault, it's always YOUR fault!". :evil:

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