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Author:  sandorski [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
herbie herbie:
No. idiots. It's another bullshit term invented by the right, a 'generalized' smear term without any real meaning that sounds good to a halfwit audience. Repeated enough that it must be true.
Even the author of the shit-spew linked for this thread is above using a term so obviously made up.


Yup.

It's what Males say instead of, "Misogynist" or "Rapist". A complete mimicry of the extreme feminists of our time. Congrats guys, you're becoming just as shrill and annoying as them.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
herbie herbie:
No. idiots. It's another bullshit term invented by the right, a 'generalized' smear term without any real meaning that sounds good to a halfwit audience. Repeated enough that it must be true.
Even the author of the shit-spew linked for this thread is above using a term so obviously made up.


No. It's not, it wasn't, and by refusing to accept what the real world is offering you in the way of a fact you're in danger of identifying yourself as what actual Liberals are now calling "The Regressive Left." You're doing what they do. Refusing to acknowledge obvious facts, choosing instead to invent your own based on nothing but wishful thinking.

"Denying Reality" is #1 of the 5 signs you're a Regressive.



You're also a little guilty of #3. :wink:

I can show you liberals claiming the term "Regressive left" as theirs. They claim the term was coined by an actual, for real, moderate Muslim Liberal named Maajid Nawaz. He exists.). It's liberals who adopted the term after that. I can show you other liberals using the term.

On the right (other than myself) the rest of them are only doing this,

[popcorn]

and enjoying the show.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
And Beave made a claim that led at least me to believe the "Regressive leftists" who are alway trying to edit Wikipedia to their liking were denying the Leftist origin and use of the term.

They do seem to be at least trying to talk their way around it, but they're not successful. The only ones they can name as users of term are known Liberals, and they cannot trace the term further back than Nawaz.

See for yourself. Here's what Beave wasn't brave enough to give you. A link to the actual entry, "Regressive Left."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left
Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
$1:
The regressive left is a political epithet used by certain commentators (usually left leaning) to negatively characterize a section of leftists whom they accuse of being politically regressive (as opposed to progressive) by tolerating illiberal principles and ideology for the sake of multiculturalism.

[1][2] Within the specific context of multiculturalism, British liberal activist Maajid Nawaz used the term in 2012 in his memoir Radical: My Journey out of Islamist Extremism[note 1] to describe "well-meaning liberals and ideologically driven leftists" in Great Britain who naively and "ignorantly pandered to" Islamists and helped Islamist ideology to gain acceptance.

In a 2015 video presentation on the Internet forum Big Think, Nawaz elaborated on the meaning of the term, saying that it describes "a section of the left" that has, in his opinion, "an inherent hesitation to challenge some of the bigotry that can occur within minority communities [...] for the sake of political correctness, for the sake of tolerating what they believe is other cultures and respecting different lifestyles".[4]


Yep, regressive leftists suck the dicks of bigoted, racist, enslaving, homokilling (they're far beyond mere homophobia), woman-raping, child-raping, woman-killing, hideously and universally intolerant Moslems.

Why? Multiculturalism and Diversity are religious beliefs and facts will not be allowed to enter the sacred Temple of Tolerance.

If the high priests declare that Islam is a religion of peace then it must be so and anyone who says otherwise is a heretic and must be convicted of uttering hate speech...the highest offense in all liberaldom.

And then these fuckers wonder why Donald Trump is doing so well at the ballot box.

That's because a growing number of people are SICK to death of you fucking twats who would destroy our civilization to assuage your suicidal self loathing. :idea:
Author:  BeaverFever [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
So by definition, not all liberals are regressive then, if its a word that liberals use to differentiate themselves from other liberals. The problem is, you guys use it indiscriminately. :idea:
Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
So by definition, not all liberals are regressive then, if its a word that liberals use to differentiate themselves from other liberals. The problem is, you guys use it indiscriminately. :idea:


In my case I'm content to use the term the same way the leftists who created it are using it. Seems pretty fair to me.
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
So by definition, not all liberals are regressive then, if its a word that liberals use to differentiate themselves from other liberals.


It's fun to watch Progressives, like say the Young Turks of YouTube, realize they're being called 'the regressive left' by actual Liberals. They don't like it. They swear a lot, and say stuff about people like Sam Harris like, "You ain't no fuckin' Liberal." Except he is. :)
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
The only right wingers I can think of who might use the term regularly at present would be Libertarians. The ones with an audience anyway.

People like Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, or Paul Joseph Watson. He's a Libertarian, isn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ssive+left
Author:  BeaverFever [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
So by definition, not all liberals are regressive then, if its a word that liberals use to differentiate themselves from other liberals. The problem is, you guys use it indiscriminately. :idea:


In my case I'm content to use the term the same way the leftists who created it are using it. Seems pretty fair to me.


So you like the progressive left, the actual liberals, but not this so-called regressive left. Do I have that right?

And what prominent liberals would you call progressive vs regressive? I have a sneaking suspicion that your list has anyone and everyone who's not a card-carrying Republican in column 2.
Author:  BartSimpson [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In my case I'm content to use the term the same way the leftists who created it are using it. Seems pretty fair to me.


So you like the progressive left, the actual liberals, but not this so-called regressive left. Do I have that right?


How fucked up does your mind have to be before you can conclude that I like the progressive left just because I may agree with the use of a term that some other leftists created?

What the fuck kind of logic do you call that?
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
In any case he's diverting again. The Progressive left is the Regressive left. Progs are Regros.

He's trying to invent some new subsection that doesn't exist.

I can clarify that for at least you Bart. You know about the projected goals of the "Communist agenda" thing that was read into the congressional record as a warning in the 60s, right?

This one:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

OK - Who adopted most of that after the Communist agenda was beat back?

1. Progressives
2.Regressives
3.Both

The answer is 3. There is no basic difference in agenda. They're the same people. OK the liberals have come along on a few of those as well, but the radical edge leaves them in the dust. By the time you reach the end of the list it's Progressive/Regressives.

And they're by themselves, but together. Because they are the same people.
Author:  Korked [ Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
Factual Feminist calls out third-wave or crazy fourth-wave feminists who help radical islamists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O47bXIznf-E

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Here ya go.

Regressivism defined:


There's a website on it now
http://regressiveleft.net/2016/03/
Spotlighting the regressive nature of the far left
http://regressiveleft.net/2016/03/
Author:  BeaverFever [ Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
So if liberals are regressive are you dummies now claiming to be the real progresives?
Author:  N_Fiddledog [ Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
So if liberals are regressive are you dummies now claiming to be the real progresives?


Liberals aren't regressives. Liberals are labelling a section of the left that generally identifies themselves as progressive as the Regressive Left.

Myself, I kind of enjoy actual Liberals when you can find them. Sorry Beave you aren't one.
Author:  Korked [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tru Liberal, NewAtheists, NeoSecular VS the Regressive Left
Keeping the discussion Canadian


Canada plans significant increase to immigration in 2016
http://www.mb.com.ph/canada-plans-signi ... n-in-2016/
OTTAWA — Canada plans to significantly increase the number of immigrants it will accept this year, with a focus on reuniting families and bringing in more refugees, the government said.

The new Liberal government, which came to power on a promise to accept more Syrian refugees than the previous Conservative government, said it plans to bring in 280,000 to 305,000 new permanent residents in 2016. The target level in 2015 had been 279,200.

The government will admit 18,000 privately sponsored refugees this year, which is three times the level of previous years, Immigration Minister John McCallum said.

The government plans to bring in 55,800 total refugees this year and is also allowing for 75,000 to 82,000 immigrants under the family program.

The plan “outlines a significant shift in immigration policy toward reuniting more families, building our economy and upholding Canada’s humanitarian tradition to resettle refugees and offer protection to those in need,” McCallum told reporters.

Much of the Western world woke up to the scale of the refugee crisis only last summer when hundreds of thousands of Syrians left Turkey for Europe. For Canada, the issue hit home after the publication of front-page photos of a drowned Syrian toddler whose family had hoped to emigrate to Canada.

Although the Canadian government missed an initial deadline to bring in 25,000 Syrian refugees by last December, it has since more than met that target.

Still, immigration under the economic allowance will make up the majority of admissions this year, with 151,200 to 162,400 spots planned, in line with the average number seen in recent years.
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