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Author:  tifani [ Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:56 pm ]
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[QUOTE BY= michou] Can Canadians understand once and for all that QUÉBEC IS A DISTINCT NATION ? Québécers are Québécers. They are not Canadians, not Americans, not French, not German. <br /> <br />Liberty is not solely a question of budgets and finances either. It is about one's identity and one's place in the world. Québécers ARE NOT Canadians. How many times do I have to write it down before those of you who say you want to understand, REALLY understand ? <br />Maybe if I wrote "Canadians ARE NOT Americans", would that help your understanding of why separation has been an issue for so long in Québec and still is today ? <br /> <br />Do Canadians despise Americans because they're not Canadians like they are ? No. Do the French hate the Germans because they are German and not French ? No. <br />Do Canadians hate Québécers because they do not think of themselves as Canadians ? I think so. <br /> <br />So Whelan, in response to your query about the reasoning behind Québec's wish for sovereignty, here is a simple exercise you can try in your spare time: <br />Just repeat this simple sentence a few hundred times a day and understanding should set in naturally. <br /><i>Canadians are not Americans just as Québécers are not Canadians</i>[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Michou, please speak for yourself and not for all Quebecers; I have many friends from and in Quebec, some old friends and some I met just recently when I was in Quebec, and they definately DO consider themselves *both* Canadian and Québécois or Québécer.

Author:  samuel [ Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:02 pm ]
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The title of this thread is so inappropriate and dreadful it defies any common sense.<img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'>

Author:  michou [ Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:03 am ]
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[QUOTE BY= Samuel] The title of this thread is so inappropriate and dreadful it defies any common sense.<img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> [/QUOTE] <br /> <br />I agree but I don't mind this Québec imperalistic view. At the end of the day, maybe the planet would be in a better state if Québec ruled the world and not the Americans. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'>

Author:  michou [ Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:07 am ]
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[QUOTE BY= tifani] [QUOTE BY= michou] Can Canadians understand once and for all that QUÉBEC IS A DISTINCT NATION ? Québécers are Québécers. They are not Canadians, not Americans, not French, not German. <br /> <br />Liberty is not solely a question of budgets and finances either. It is about one's identity and one's place in the world. Québécers ARE NOT Canadians. How many times do I have to write it down before those of you who say you want to understand, REALLY understand ? <br />Maybe if I wrote "Canadians ARE NOT Americans", would that help your understanding of why separation has been an issue for so long in Québec and still is today ? <br /> <br />Do Canadians despise Americans because they're not Canadians like they are ? No. Do the French hate the Germans because they are German and not French ? No. <br />Do Canadians hate Québécers because they do not think of themselves as Canadians ? I think so. <br /> <br />So Whelan, in response to your query about the reasoning behind Québec's wish for sovereignty, here is a simple exercise you can try in your spare time: <br />Just repeat this simple sentence a few hundred times a day and understanding should set in naturally. <br /><i>Canadians are not Americans just as Québécers are not Canadians</i>[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Michou, please speak for yourself and not for all Quebecers; I have many friends from and in Quebec, some old friends and some I met just recently when I was in Quebec, and they definately DO consider themselves *both* Canadian and Québécois or Québécer.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />I agree tifani but this is a thread that ended up being about separatism and when I speak for those who are, I don't feel I need to make the distinction with those who aren't. <br />I also have some friends who consider themselves Canadian. But they usually say in the same breath, I'm a Québécois first, then I'm Canadian. That to me says a lot about where their heart lies. <br />

Author:  gaulois [ Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:52 am ]
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[QUOTE BY= michou] I agree tifani but this is a thread that ended up being about separatism and when I speak for those who are, I don't feel I need to make the distinction with those who aren't. <br />[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Ce serait bien si les gens pouvaient limiter leurs commentaires sur le sujet initial. Si la comparaison est loufoque, soit. Si te titre est inapproprie et pathetique, c'est une autre opinion. Comme franco hors-Quebec, j'ai aussi le droit a mon opinion. Je crois qu'Asterix le Gaulois comprendrait bien comment la menace des Romains et des Barbares sur leur village s'applique par ici avec certains Quebecois et Americains. Aussi pouvons-nous repondre dans la langue du premier message?

Author:  Amiral [ Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:13 am ]
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Je trouve ça intéressant comme sujet. Mais pour changer un peu les choses, et pour mettres certains trucs en perspective du sujet: prenons les langues. Le village d'Astérix est le Québec où une bande d'irréductibles francos s'accrochent encore et encore à une langue que plusieurs considèrent morte en Amérique. Ils ne sont que 7,5 millions contre l'empire canado-américain, fort de plus de 300 millions de sujets, contre l'empire hispanophone avec plus de 260 millions de sujets et le Brésil fort de 180 millions de lusophones.<br /> <br /> Suicide ou obstination? Potion magique ou caractère?<br /> <br /> Ces chiffres me font peur à chaque fois que je les regarde. Pour moi, ça remet constamment les choses en perspective. On répète 7,5 millions...

Author:  michou [ Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:44 am ]
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[QUOTE BY= Amiral] <br /> Suicide ou obstination? Potion magique ou caractère?<br /> <br /> Ces chiffres me font peur à chaque fois que je les regarde. Pour moi, ça remet constamment les choses en perspective. On répète 7,5 millions...[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Amiral, sir !<br /> <br /> Remettons effectivement les choses en perspective. 7,5 millions de francos. <br /> <br /> Les Francophones d'Amérique du Nord devront être obstiné, avoir du caractère et si le destin nous est favorable, un peu de potion magique ne fera pas de mal. Si non, c'est le suicide d'une langue et d'une culture entière en Amérique du Nord et qui se souviendra de nous ?

Author:  Amiral [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:37 pm ]
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Quelque chose à mentionner après cet argument?<br /> <br /> Où sont les habiles démagogues?<br /> <br />

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