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Author:  Dino [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:20 pm ]
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What is the ROC?

Author:  gaulois [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:42 pm ]
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ROC=Rest Of Canada. Term often used when discussing Canada-Quebec relationships.

Author:  samuel [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:49 pm ]
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http://www.pq.org <br /> <br />http://www.bloc.org

Author:  gaulois [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:02 pm ]
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Pourrais-tu me diriger vers un "white paper" ou une analyse appropriée? Je ne peux pas voir la forêt à partir de ses arbres.

Author:  michou [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:23 pm ]
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self censored

Author:  michou [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:28 pm ]
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self censored

Author:  Perturbed [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:56 pm ]
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Aside from my past arguments, I don't see how someone can support separatism, which could clearly lead to anarchy, and be serious at the same time about solving problems. A strong Canadian central government filled with good leaders (for a change) is the only way I see us becoming more powerful and prosperous, as well as more socially responsible. <br /> <br />I simply see no idealism in any separatist party. PQ, Bloq. And then there's Mario Dumont: "We don't support sovereignty, we support autonomy." Some business interests are the only ones to gain anything from separatism--economics is the key. <br /> <br />Not to mention the Quebec university students keep telling the PQ pollsters the same thing--no. Go away. I think separating French-Canadian pride from destructive separatism is a good idea. French is a wonderful language, and it is in no danger of disappearing IMO. <br /> <br />

Author:  Perturbed [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:58 pm ]
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Aside from my past arguments, I don't see how someone can support separatism, which could clearly lead to anarchy, and be serious at the same time about solving problems. A strong Canadian central government filled with good leaders (for a change) is the only way I see us becoming more powerful and prosperous, as well as more socially responsible. <br /> <br />I simply see no idealism in any separatist party. PQ, Bloq. And then there's Mario Dumont: "We don't support sovereignty, we support autonomy." Some business interests are the only ones to gain anything from separatism--economics is the key. <br /> <br />Not to mention the Quebec university students keep telling the PQ pollsters the same thing--no. Go away. I think separating French-Canadian pride from destructive separatism is a good idea. French is a wonderful language, and it is in no danger of disappearing IMO. English is simply the language of world commerc--and if and when this passes, English and French may be marginalized. Not to mention most Canadians in the ROC speak English but don't originate in England. <br /> <br />

Author:  Perturbed [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:00 pm ]
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Oops. Is there really no delete post option? I quoted by mistake. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/neutral.gif' alt='Neutral'>

Author:  Guest [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:27 pm ]
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Vigile.net

Author:  michou [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:45 pm ]
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self censored

Author:  Perturbed [ Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:58 pm ]
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I love fringe websites. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'>

Author:  Guest [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:45 pm ]
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<br />http://www.independance-quebec.com <br /> <br />http://lequebecunpays.org

Author:  Macdonald/Borden [ Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:28 pm ]
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Just outta curiosity how many other federalist parties are there in Quebec besides the PLQ and parti egalite? I know that the Greens are federalists (least I think so), the Bloc Pot might be, but they're not exactly a serious party. The Marxist-Leninists call themselves federalists, but from what I've read both the federal party and their provincial counterparts are just as much seperatist as the Bloc and PQ. <br /> <br />But hey they're Maoists, I don't expect sanity from those types of people!

Author:  Perturbed [ Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:42 pm ]
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[QUOTE BY= michou] <br />Ok, fair enough. Here are a few links: <br /> <br />--<a href="http://www.toile.qc.ca/quebec/Societe/Vie_politique/Question_nationale/Souverainete/">La Toile du Québec</a> <br />--<a href="http://agora.qc.ca/liens/kymlicka.html">Quebec: a modern, pluralist, distinct society</a> <br />--<a href="http://lequebecois.org/Default.aspx">Le Québécois</a> (there's even a reference to our "bloodthirsty" ' federal government <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'>... does this ring a bell ?) [/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> <br />Yes, they are bloodthirsty, and this effects Ontarians much more than Quebecers. Toronto pays Quebec's lunch.

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