CKA Forums :: Green Party will re-legalize cannabis in Canada

However, the US will never go for it, and Harper is such a toady that means he'll keep taking on a similar stance, that it's an evil drug and worth all the extra policing and jail sentences, even though the US "War on Drugs" has been going on for years and hasn't worked. Remember, integration means we adopt US policy on things like this.

It is at time difficult living next to a giant even if it is a friendly giant.

Howd I know Mr. Shavluk would be here, hey John how goes?

Lets face it, anyone who knows whats going on knows that

1. Marijuana isent harmful in any sense that it needs to be illegal
2. Its an ignorant conservative agenda that keeps it illegal

Theres no debate to be had about whether we should or shouldnt make it legal, the debate is how hard are we willing to oppose Harper and his u.s. handlers ...

I think Canadians are too weak on this subject personally, we might have better character then the u.s. but europe makes us look like sheep ...

Author:	shavluk [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:28 pm ]
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I think this is a step in the right direction in Canada's continued drug war. I would assume some here would be against my rights to my own body here? ...like else where? and yes want to argue with me for the continued status quo and more wasted taxpayers money and citizens lives.... Yes ....only 800,000 with a criminal record for cannabis possession here in Canada now. Batter up!

Author:	kenmore [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:31 pm ]
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hope its not too green... is on harpers list of safe drugs? .. will it be tax exempt. will the price go up...

Author:	shavluk [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:45 pm ]
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Harper is doing Bill C-26 to put me in jail for a "mandatory minimum sentence" So he wont be on my Xmas card list The price will go down to $25.00 dollars an ounce (taxes $21.70 per ounce) and as they get even stupider(hahha) with sin tax ... yes...Indian reservations will be then hawking it to us all for $15.00 just for us to save those taxes hahha alcohol under prohibition would be $300.00 a bottle today and it is by far safer legal than not ...do you think? no drive by shootings at liquor stores lately ....hahha

Author:	sthompson [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:04 pm ]
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It would make sense. It's a lot less problematic than alcohol (doesn't exactly cause or exacerbate fits of rage!!), and according to medical journals like the Lancet the long-term health effects are not that bad (much less than say, cigarettes). However, the US will never go for it, and Harper is such a toady that means he'll keep taking on a similar stance, that it's an evil drug and worth all the extra policing and jail sentences, even though the US "War on Drugs" has been going on for years and hasn't worked. Remember, integration means we adopt US policy on things like this. Mandatory minimum sentencing is just wrong.

Author:	Diogenes [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:07 pm ]
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Given the Canadian record of support for fringe parties there isn't a hope inhell the usof part of america will have to take any action the marigeehoonie biz is a cash cow for the law and the rest of their ilk in b c there are claims of it being into the billions of dollars what's gonna replace that revenue? addictions or habits have never been legislated out of existance aqnd never will be in most cases substance abuse is a mental health problem. Deal with it as such! http://www.mind-trek.com/treatise/ls-vanc.htm Vices Are Not Crimes A Vindication of Moral Liberty by Lysander Spooner, 1875 I Vices are those acts by which a man harms himself or his property. Crimes are those acts by which one man harms the person or property of another. Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property. In vices, the very essence of crime - that is, the design to injure the person or property of another - is wanting. V (5) Vices are usually pleasurable, at least for the time being, and often do not disclose themselves as vices, by their effects, until after they have been practised for many years; perhaps for a lifetime. To many, perhaps most, of those who practise them, they do not desclose themselves as vices at all during life. Virtues, on the other hand, often appear so harsh and rugged, they require the sacrifice of so much present happiness, at least, and the results, which alone prove them to be virtues, are often so distant and obscure, in fact, so absolutely invisible to the minds of many, especially of the young that, from the very nature of things, there can be no universal, or even general, knowledge that they are virtues. In truth, the studies of profound philosophers have been expended - if not wholly in vain, certainly with very small results - in efforts to draw the lines between the virtues and the vices. If, then, it became so difficult, so nearly impossible, in most cases, to determine what is, and what is not, vice; and especially if it be so difficult, in nearly all cases, to determine where virtue ends, and vice begins; and if these questions, which no one can really and truly determine for anybody but himself, are not to be left free and open fro experiment by all, each person is deprived of the highest of all his rights as a human being, to wit: his right to inquire, investigate, reason, try experiments, judge, and ascertain for himself, what is, to him, virtue, and what is, to him, vice; in other words: what, on the whole, conduces to his happiness, and what, on the whole, tends to his unhappiness. If this great right is not to be left free and open to all, then each man's whole right, as a reasoning human being, to "liberty and the pursuit of happiness," is denied him.

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Author:	mtbr [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:41 pm ]
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Looks like the Liberals just lost another wack of core support

Author:	shavluk [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:35 am ]
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Well with us tripling our vote and all I would say it will actually hurt the conservative party the most as most of my friends are conservatives and they like me use cannabis The only post at the conservative web page ever put up from another party was the Green press release about cannabis because Harper knows how badly myself and my team will bleed the conservative party come this next election....watch! I would put the blog link about it but it says I am not allowed to yet.

Author:	mtbr [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:20 pm ]
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yeah..maybe the Greens will actually win a seat it doesn't take much to win votes in BC....if a party with no plans can get their attention just by mentioning the word pot.

Author:	sasquatch2 [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:37 pm ]
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sthompson $1: However, the US will never go for it, and Harper is such a toady that means he'll keep taking on a similar stance, that it's an evil drug and worth all the extra policing and jail sentences, even though the US "War on Drugs" has been going on for years and hasn't worked. Remember, integration means we adopt US policy on things like this. You are obviously smoking the wrong stuff, because of the US policy, no Canadian government of any stripe, can or will legalize canabis. $1: It is at time difficult living next to a giant even if it is a friendly giant. Mitchell Sharp

Author:	shavluk [ Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:13 pm ]
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I will take that bet! With 2 million in USA jails and the most in the world based on population they themselves may just end this crazyness themselves as California just announced the medicinal and legal cannabis business just surpassed the California wine industry in dollars last year. I dont think they have more sick people in California than wine drinkers....do you? Canadian Forums CKA Canadian Forums Forum Index General Error In order to try to prevent spammers, we do not allow our users to post URLs in any form until they have posted at least 10 legitimate posts and have been with us for more than 2 days. We appreciate your understanding in this matter in order to help us eliminate spam from this forum. If you have somehow gotten this message even though you meet both of the criteria, please let us know ASAP. Thanks! well than how about this way .............. hmmmmm nope

Author:	ArghMonkey [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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Howd I know Mr. Shavluk would be here, hey John how goes? Lets face it, anyone who knows whats going on knows that 1. Marijuana isent harmful in any sense that it needs to be illegal 2. Its an ignorant conservative agenda that keeps it illegal Theres no debate to be had about whether we should or shouldnt make it legal, the debate is how hard are we willing to oppose Harper and his u.s. handlers ... I think Canadians are too weak on this subject personally, we might have better character then the u.s. but europe makes us look like sheep ...

Author:	mtbr [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:14 pm ]
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ArghMonkey ArghMonkey: Howd I know Mr. Shavluk would be here, hey John how goes? Lets face it, anyone who knows whats going on knows that 1. Marijuana isent harmful in any sense that it needs to be illegal 2. Its an ignorant conservative agenda that keeps it illegal Theres no debate to be had about whether we should or shouldnt make it legal, the debate is how hard are we willing to oppose Harper and his u.s. handlers ... I think Canadians are too weak on this subject personally, we might have better character then the u.s. but europe makes us look like sheep ... Let me guess Mr Shavlak is another pot crusader and his now using CKA as a soapbox. the evil Mr Harper aka GW minor is keeping him from getting stoned without repercussion. .....

Author:	Diogenes [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:28 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw a 7 part docu watch and learn And if yoiu are looking for the idiot factor go here http://forums.castanet.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=13016

Author:	shavluk [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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Hi argh ..nice avay hahhahhahaa it wont let me post my links yet even though I should be able to...but just go to the greenparty site and read the blogs....and thanks for the link I will check it out why Ms May will be in the tv Leaders debate In the 1988 federal election the Bloc Quebecois did not exist. Gilles Duceppe was elected in a by-election two years later as an independent, not as a Bloc candidate. Despite having no seats in Parliament, no official recognition from the Speaker and only 75 candidates out of 295 ridings, the Bloc Quebecois was included in both the French and English debates. The Bloc has never fielded a candidate outside Quebec but continues to participate in debates in both official languages. In the 1988 general election, the Reform Party ran 72 candidates, received 276,000 votes and won no seats. By the time of the 1993 election, the Reform Party’s only sitting member was Deborah Grey following her win in a 1989 by-election. Reform did not have Official Party status and did not win a seat in the 1988 election but Preston Manning participated in the 1993 leaders’ debate, based on the 11,154 votes Deborah Grey received in a 1989 by-election with a 47 per cent turnout. In 1993, the party ran only 207 candidates. In 2004 and 2006, the Green Party ran a full slate of 308 candidates and won 583,000 and 664,000 votes respectively, over double the Reform Party’s performance in 1988. In 1979, the Social Credit Party was excluded from the debate despite the fact that it had 11 seats in Parliament at the time of dissolution. And in 1997, both the NDP and Progressive Conservatives were included in the debate despite not having Official Party status. In 1993, 1997 and 2000 five leaders participated in the televised debates. This was reduced to four following the merger of the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives in 2003. Fair play, democratic equity and precedent demands that a fifth spot now be opened for a new national leader to join the debate. Five parties received over 2 per cent of the vote in 2004 and 2006 and all five should appear in the next leaders’ debate

Author:	shavluk [ Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:21 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o-IEOhCaGc don't drink beer and smoke pot....though don't need alcohol and it always causes problems at these rallies....booooze (yes i would disagree with the opening but the rest was a good view)!!!!

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