[DrCaleb]

Another consideration - Patents. Blackberry has tons of them, and the likes of Apple, Motorola (Google) aren't going to risk any patent troll getting them like Nortel did on it's liquidation.

[OnTheIce]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Another consideration - Patents. Blackberry has tons of them, and the likes of Apple, Motorola (Google) aren't going to risk any patent troll getting them like Nortel did on it's liquidation.

Blackberry owns a chunk of those Nortel patents too.

[BRAH]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

What bank do you use?

That's Classified.

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Another consideration - Patents. Blackberry has tons of them, and the likes of Apple, Motorola (Google) aren't going to risk any patent troll getting them like Nortel did on it's liquidation.

I've never heard of that happening.

[bootlegga]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The BB10 OS is by far the best OS available on the market for a smartphone but suffers from a lack of apps.

I never bought the more 'apps' thing. It's a phone. I can see the use of some things like Google Maps, or a restaraunt guide; but most people I know use an app once or twice, and never again. (Besides angry birds) So why would people want to pay $5.99 for more things to ignore?

Besides, BB10 runs all Android apps doesn't it?

Yeah, call me old, but I hardly use any of the apps I downloaded for my tablet...fortunately, I didn't pay for any of them.

[BRAH]

The final nail in BlackBerry's coffin with the loyal base was when they dropped BB10 for the Playbook.

[EyeBrock]

Mmmm.

RIM are toast. I sold my shares when that guy was looking at buying a NHL team.

I had a work BB, I liked it. I got my own LG android with a qwerty keyboard, I though it was ok but it crapped out on me when I was back in the Emerald Isle and all my cousins took the piss out of me for not having an iphone. I reluctantly got an iphone 4 for free with my plan as choices on qwerty phones are now very limited.

The iphone is simply the best phone I have ever had. Did I say that RIM are toast yet?

It's Nortel 2.

[OnTheIce]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Mmmm.

RIM are toast. I sold my shares when that guy was looking at buying a NHL team.

I had a work BB, I liked it. I got my own LG android with a qwerty keyboard, I though it was ok but it crapped out on me when I was back in the Emerald Isle and all my cousins took the piss out of me for not having an iphone. I reluctantly got an iphone 4 for free with my plan as choices on qwerty phones are now very limited.

The iphone is simply the best phone I have ever had. Did I say that RIM are toast yet?

It's Nortel 2.

We have short memories, it seems.

A quick look back at Apple and it's fractured past, you'll see a lot of similarities. Financial losses, big job cuts and innovation that led to the companies recovery. Blackberry is still sitting with billions in the bank and zero debt.

BB10 has advantages...it's the best OS available on the market today. It has more apps available at this point in it's lifespan than Apple did with the iPhone.

At the 7 month mark, Apple had roughly 17,000 apps while BB10 is running over 117,000 apps at the same time period. Android was running 2,900.

Taking BB private is the right way to to this. Get the company back to innovation and less worries about the stock market. Positive news and great phone reviews will bring the company back up again.

[DrCaleb]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BB10 has advantages...it's the best OS available on the market today. It has more apps available at this point in it's lifespan than Apple did with the iPhone.

At the 7 month mark, Apple had roughly 17,000 apps while BB10 is running over 117,000 apps at the same time period. Android was running 2,900.

Taking BB private is the right way to to this. Get the company back to innovation and less worries about the stock market. Positive news and great phone reviews will bring the company back up again.

Exactly. Blackberry isn't 'toast' so much as people think they are 'toast'. If people looked at their product objectively, they would see it is strongly competitive.

With the new contract the company I work for will be signing in the next month, we all have to have our own company cell phone. I'll be getting a Z30 to replace my 6 year old BB 9700 Bold so I can 'dual home' it to my personal and corporate profiles. Then again, I still have a working Apple Newton.

[Jabberwalker]

$1:

Then again, I still have a working Apple Newton.

[... he said cranking the handle on the side so that he could type out another sentence.]

[BRAH]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Mmmm.

RIM are toast. I sold my shares when that guy was looking at buying a NHL team.

I had a work BB, I liked it. I got my own LG android with a qwerty keyboard, I though it was ok but it crapped out on me when I was back in the Emerald Isle and all my cousins took the piss out of me for not having an iphone. I reluctantly got an iphone 4 for free with my plan as choices on qwerty phones are now very limited.

The iphone is simply the best phone I have ever had. Did I say that RIM are toast yet?

It's Nortel 2.

We have short memories, it seems.

A quick look back at Apple and it's fractured past, you'll see a lot of similarities. Financial losses, big job cuts and innovation that led to the companies recovery. Blackberry is still sitting with billions in the bank and zero debt.

BB10 has advantages...it's the best OS available on the market today. It has more apps available at this point in it's lifespan than Apple did with the iPhone.

At the 7 month mark, Apple had roughly 17,000 apps while BB10 is running over 117,000 apps at the same time period. Android was running 2,900.

Taking BB private is the right way to to this. Get the company back to innovation and less worries about the stock market. Positive news and great phone reviews will bring the company back up again.

That's true BlackBerry was in the same spot Apple once was, maybe taking them private is the best as you pointed out because they're not under pressure to answer to shareholders which is possibly the start of their problems as I know from experience taking a company public changes everything.

[Jonny_C]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, call me old, but I hardly use any of the apps I downloaded for my tablet...fortunately, I didn't pay for any of them.

When you first run into apps, it's kind of like being a kid in a candy store. There seems to be so much there.

In a short while you start to see an incredible amount of duplication and an incredible amount of junk.

It gets pretty boring looking for something that might have a modicum of usefulness on a cell phone. Particularly when so many things that apps do can be done so much better during that part of the day when you can sit down in front of a laptop or desktop computer.

[Jabberwalker]

$1:

Blackberry owns a chunk of those Nortel patents too.

Patents only have an 18 year lifespan and those old Nortel patents will be entering the public domain at a pretty steady rate, these days.

[Jonny_C]

It may be a dying gasp but this phone has some style...

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/photos/wait ... 83923.html

[DrCaleb]

That ^^ is pretty sexy! But not work $2k.