[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

Mathusians like that bug-eyed, horse-faced c*nt AOC always think that 'mass death' is a FEATURE of their ideas and not a drawback.

And also, I get mod edited for calling Lindsay Graham a queen but this is still acceptable?

But that would be misgendering. I'm hearing that's against one of Justin's new laws. Jordan Peterson told me it is.

I guess that means you ans Jordan are horribly misinformed.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I guess that means you ans Jordan are horribly misinformed.

Hey Mister. Don't think I've forgotten how you misgendered me.

I'm not litigious but I might tell Justin on you. He's gonna kick you out of his fan club.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I guess that means you ans Jordan are horribly misinformed.

Hey Mister. Don't think I've forgotten how you misgendered me.

I'm not litigious but I might tell Justin on you. He's gonna kick you out of his fan club.

Hmm. I bet you think I misgendered you when I called you genius , right?

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Hmm. I bet you think I misgendered you when I called you genius , right?

Who told you genius was a gender? Don't play dumb with me Beave. I know you're not playing.

In any case, genius is OK. Thanks, I guess.

[BeaverFever]

I bet you think I misgendered you when I assumed you could understand sarcasm

[llama66]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I guess that means you ans Jordan are horribly misinformed.

Hey Mister. Don't think I've forgotten how you misgendered me.

I'm not litigious but I might tell Justin on you. He's gonna kick you out of his fan club.

[DrCaleb]

peck420 peck420:

What some are taking as a plan is really a long term goals list. The short term plan is most likely to sway the discourse, in the hopes of making some goals easier to achieve in the near future.

Sometimes it is a wasted effort to try to appeal to people while they are enjoying a good partisan froth.

[peck420]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Sometimes it is a wasted effort to try to appeal to people while they are enjoying a good partisan froth.

Tis why I have left it alone since...

[DrCaleb]

[MeganC]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

At no time during the New Deal era did the US risk becoming a socialist state like today’s China, although the established Right wing interests of the day, many of whom were admirers of Hitler’s Germany, certainly tried to make that claim.

My high school history teacher told us that the New Deal was a great thing but that it borrowed a lot from Nazi Germany like social security, a civilian labor organization, etc.

There is an article from 1940 that says this.

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New Deal Has Same Economic Basis As Nazism and Fascism, States Gras

March 26, 1940

Norman S. B. Gras, Isidor Straus Professor of Business History, indicted the New Deal as an example of "national capitalism" similar to that in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in an article published today in the Harvard Business Review.

The newest phase of business development, national capitalism is "a system of business based upon private enterprise publicly controlled." Representing an entirely new alignment of business groups, it "keeps business at a low state of performance" through increasing the rigidities of the economic system. "Although rigidity is sometimes favorable to the purposes of business," he said, "on the whole it is distinctly unfavorable.

"The new system creates a condition of high costs arising out of high wage rates in America and public works everywhere. The resulting high taxes constitute a major element in private business administration."

Professor Gras traced the history of mercantile capitalism from the days when it superseded the extremely rigid, relatively unprogressive petty capitalist who flourished in the Middle Ages to the present time.

Elasticity of business, which is favorable for the development of an economic system, lasted up until the time of the Industrial Revolution. At that time economic conditions stiffened, and the resulting rigidity produced problems which were not solved even by 1914.

After the World War the economic picture of the world in general was greatly altered. "In 1922 Fascism was born in Italy and in 1933 Nazism in Germany and the New Deal in the United States. All were based on private business and all provided work for the working class."

National capitalism is inextricably bound up with the recent histories of these three nations. It grew up only recently in the United States along with the rise of the New Deal, although Professor Gras described it as "a new rival system made up of old elements." And as such it should prove a controversial topic in the future.

[llama66]

The New Deal was (as I understand) FDR basically (and not literally) throwing shit against a wall and seeing what stuck.

[MeganC]

llama66 llama66:

The New Deal was (as I understand) FDR basically (and not literally) throwing shit against a wall and seeing what stuck.

Like packing the supreme court how that didn't work.

[llama66]

Yeah, literally... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal... Here's an idea.... shit that didn't work, new deal...

as I understood it to be, please bear in mind since high school I've drunk 10 kiloliters of booze and smoked 100 kg of weed.

[N_Fiddledog]

This idea that people like AOC could control the climate even if they wanted to is nonsense anyway. If they really cared about this convenient theory they're pushing that humans are being bad to the climate with their fossil fuels they wouldn't be flying around the country on whims or sending their toadies for gin and bon bons in hired limos while they tell the rest of us to bike or take the bus.

It's never been about the fantasy of controlling the climate. It's always just been about control for them.

[BeaverFever]

MeganC MeganC:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

At no time during the New Deal era did the US risk becoming a socialist state like today’s China, although the established Right wing interests of the day, many of whom were admirers of Hitler’s Germany, certainly tried to make that claim.

My high school history teacher told us that the New Deal was a great thing but that it borrowed a lot from Nazi Germany like social security, a civilian labor organization, etc.

There is an article from 1940 that says this.

$1:

New Deal Has Same Economic Basis As Nazism and Fascism, States Gras

March 26, 1940

Norman S. B. Gras, Isidor Straus Professor of Business History, indicted the New Deal as an example of "national capitalism" similar to that in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in an article published today in the Harvard Business Review.

The newest phase of business development, national capitalism is "a system of business based upon private enterprise publicly controlled." Representing an entirely new alignment of business groups, it "keeps business at a low state of performance" through increasing the rigidities of the economic system. "Although rigidity is sometimes favorable to the purposes of business," he said, "on the whole it is distinctly unfavorable.

"The new system creates a condition of high costs arising out of high wage rates in America and public works everywhere. The resulting high taxes constitute a major element in private business administration."

Professor Gras traced the history of mercantile capitalism from the days when it superseded the extremely rigid, relatively unprogressive petty capitalist who flourished in the Middle Ages to the present time.

Elasticity of business, which is favorable for the development of an economic system, lasted up until the time of the Industrial Revolution. At that time economic conditions stiffened, and the resulting rigidity produced problems which were not solved even by 1914.

After the World War the economic picture of the world in general was greatly altered. "In 1922 Fascism was born in Italy and in 1933 Nazism in Germany and the New Deal in the United States. All were based on private business and all provided work for the working class."

National capitalism is inextricably bound up with the recent histories of these three nations. It grew up only recently in the United States along with the rise of the New Deal, although Professor Gras described it as "a new rival system made up of old elements." And as such it should prove a controversial topic in the future.

FFS The Nazis didn’t invent social security and if they had, it doesn’t mean any country with social security is a Nazi.

The New Deal was an unqualified success and nearly 90 years later we can safely say iot is not creeping Nazism.

Also note that ACTUAL Nazi sympathizers in the USA opposed the New Deal and “The Business Plot” was an alleged scheme by a cabal of pro-nazi bankers to remove FDR from office with a force of disgruntled WW1 veterans lead by a Republican USMC General Smedley Butler. . The General however had become a supporter of FDR and blew the lid off the plot

Quick, to the way-back machine!