[herbie]

Yes the people at the extreme won't settle for common sense, they want all or nothing. But most people realize that a step in the right direction is better than nothing, even in the Green Party ranks.
Then there's those who think a "little bit" of extremely radioactive byproduct that takes 10,000 years to deplete is a "good" option too.
Plus there's the "carbon capturists" proposing hiding CO2 in caves under pressure instead of in plants or trees.
Then there's those kids who threw their sister's bike off the bridge because it had a flat tire and "you can't fix things, stoopid people fix things" who are 40 now and somehow now influence society.
Lots of those can't think one step ahead people out there. The vast majority.

[uwish]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

uwish uwish:

and will likely result in huge increase in general cost per KWH as in any other jurisdiction this has been tried.

https://www.eike-klima-energie.eu/2020/ ... fuerchtet/

Then people like us have to pay more for you to feel better about yourself in this fake climate crisis.

In Germany they are paying ~0.34c/kwh that is about 500% more than only a decade ago. Don't come crying to me when you can't afford power, ask Ontario how it's gone for them...

That's just fear mongering based on your personal opinion.

The facts seem to prove the cost of electricity in the UK has always followed the price of natural gas and continues to do so even after the carbon tax was placed on coal.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/418126/electricity-prices-for-households-in-the-uk/

you were saying?

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/climate-policies-helped-put-54-million-europeans-into-energy-poverty-canadians-are-next

[Prof_Chomsky]

uwish uwish:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

uwish uwish:

and will likely result in huge increase in general cost per KWH as in any other jurisdiction this has been tried.

https://www.eike-klima-energie.eu/2020/ ... fuerchtet/

Then people like us have to pay more for you to feel better about yourself in this fake climate crisis.

In Germany they are paying ~0.34c/kwh that is about 500% more than only a decade ago. Don't come crying to me when you can't afford power, ask Ontario how it's gone for them...

That's just fear mongering based on your personal opinion.

The facts seem to prove the cost of electricity in the UK has always followed the price of natural gas and continues to do so even after the carbon tax was placed on coal.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/418126/electricity-prices-for-households-in-the-uk/

You do understand those 2 things aren't related right? For starters that's British electrical rates vs EU energy costs.

Now rewind before carbon taxing was even a thing and oil was $120 a barrel...
If anything the fact energy efficient products have been mandated has reduced the cost of energy consumption. The real culprit of "energy poverty" as the article states is falling wages (due to wage and class inequity), mixed with the ever increasing number of people on the planet using a finite amount of resources. Supply and demand.

you were saying?

[uwish]

falling wages is only a small portion, when electricity increases 100's of %, that is the result of moving away from 'cheap' energy to dangerous world of 'green' energy.