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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:57 am
 


Here is were this goes to far. A Senoirs Lodge here which has 2 ventilated smoking rooms with doors, are going to be locked up at midnight tonight. Now these 80 - 90 year old people will have to go outside in minus what ever weather to smoke. Or they will just smoke in their rooms, which isn’t allowed now and maybe risk burning the place down by smoking in bed.

When you’ve been smoking for 65 = 70 years, it would be pretty hard for these people to quit. The first victims of the future smoke Nazi’s not allowing an individual to smoke in their own home.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:06 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
But I can say im Day 8 of being Nicotine and Caffeine free now!!!! :D


R=UP Day 15 on the smoking for me. Nicotine replacement has kept me from killing anyone. 10 Minutes on the caffine. ;)

One vice at a time. Now, I just need to kick the Fabrege Egg habit.


ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

I locked myself in my room on Christmas for awhile...or it would have been a very Bloody Christmas, but im good now... :lol:

Congrats!!!! Keep it up!!! the caffeine withdrawal hurts tho...but only for awhile, pop lots of Advil :wink:


I woke up Christmas morning next to the dismembered head of a Reindeer. I think Santa is trying to tell me something.

Got Advil on special at Costco. 300 caps. I my need them. Going to try for the caffine habit the end of January. Coming off 2 pots a day won't be easy.

You keep up the fight too! It's a nasty 'habit' that should have been made illegal long before it killed both my parents.

I'd like the pro-smoking crowd to try to tell me why banning smoking everywhere is a bad thing.


I would also like to hear people call it what it is....ADDICTION...its the hardest thing I have ever quit. It isnt a habit, the habit is having something in your fingers...

Im sorry to hear about your parents...good choice to put the smokes out.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:25 pm
 


How do these other Provinces handle the issue of smoking on Indian Reservations? Both Calgary and Edmonton have Native Casino’s just outside their City Limits and as far as they are concerned it full steam ahead with the steamers on Indian land.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:29 pm
 


Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
Here is were this goes to far. A Senoirs Lodge here which has 2 ventilated smoking rooms with doors, are going to be locked up at midnight tonight. Now these 80 - 90 year old people will have to go outside in minus what ever weather to smoke. Or they will just smoke in their rooms, which isn’t allowed now and maybe risk burning the place down by smoking in bed.

When you’ve been smoking for 65 = 70 years, it would be pretty hard for these people to quit. The first victims of the future smoke Nazi’s not allowing an individual to smoke in their own home.


there's a downside to every law but you can't please everyone


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:48 pm
 


TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
I would also like to hear people call it what it is....ADDICTION...its the hardest thing I have ever quit. It isnt a habit, the habit is having something in your fingers...

Im sorry to hear about your parents...good choice to put the smokes out.


That's why I put the word habit in quotes. My Dad started smoking in WW2 (free smokes!), and Mom was a model for cig advertising (all the smokes she wanted, free!). Dad died slowly in hospital, after he had a major heart attack, and his internal organs slowly died because his heart couldn't supply them with blood any longer. It took nearly a month. Mom took 5 years to die after she was diagnosed with lung cancer. It was very slow, and she was on a morphine patch the strength of which would have instantly killed an ordinary Junkie. And she was still in excruciating pain.

I don't say this to illicit sympathy (but, thank you!), I say this as motivation for those who are thinking of quitting. (asbestos whiffing is easy to quit :-) ) Your death can be just as slow and painful, if you want it to be. Even with that as motivation, I still find it difficult.

Second hand smoke was unheard of when I was born, and from the time I was born I was addicted. I still remember asking them to roll the windows down when we were driving anywhere, and seeing that layer of blue smoke hovering in the living room. I never really knew how addicted I was till I moved out of my parents house. Then I started smoking, and didn't understand why.

It is really tough to quit. I must be on my 10th attempt. The first couple weeks aren't bad. Somewhere around 4 - 6 weeks it gets bad. If I can get past that, again in 6 months it hits again. Never made it past 6 months.

Banning tobacco will have to be done slowly too. First restaurants, then public spaces, then fully.

I think it's the same 'sudden death' thing we see too frequently in society. Someone dies by gunshot (sudden, violent, messy) and there is a huge outcry to ban guns. A child drowns in a pool - there is no outcry for manditory fencing around pools. But more kids drown in pools than are shot by accident.

People die daily from smoking, and people still try to defend the purveyors of death. And we hum and haw . . . and debate about rights. I don't care about peoples' right to die slowly by self inflicted causes, I care about the rights of everyone else not to.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:53 pm
 


Next, they are gonna say that smoking causes global warming !! :o


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