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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:51 pm
 


<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=31703" target="_blank">Prince of Pot's deal with U.S. shot down by Ottawa</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/18-law--order" target="_blank">Law & Order</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-03-28 09:26:04
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:51 pm
 


WTF? The Canadian authorities ignored Emery for years, which prompted the US to arguably overstep its authority, and now the Canadians are nixing a deal between someone they've been ignoring and a foreign interloper? If the justification is anything but to seek an even lesser sentence, then it is clearly political.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:59 pm
 


Since we'be been ignoring him and his crimes, why should we want to honor a deal for his sake now? The "deal" would have him plead guilty and most of his 10 years would be served in Canada. In the US system, he risks a possible life in prison.

It would be paralell to a gun dealer in Montana sending handguns accross the border by mail. It might not be illegal for him but it would definately piss us off.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:13 pm
 


Yeah, except pot isn't very dangerous, and guns are.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:15 pm
 


ridenrain wrote:
Since we'be been ignoring him and his crimes, why should we want to honor a deal for his sake now? The "deal" would have him plead guilty and most of his 10 years would be served in Canada. In the US system, he risks a possible life in prison.

It would be paralell to a gun dealer in Montana sending handguns accross the border by mail. It might not be illegal for him but it would definately piss us off.


Becuase honoring it sees him serve more time than he would if we'd continued to ignore him. We, by ignoring him, apparently don't think what he's doing is all that bad. The Americans think differently. Why are we now taking a harder line than the Americans?

To take your analogy further, if we'd arranged for the dealer to spend some time in jail in the US to our satisfaction, what purpose would the US have to deny it? Unless, of course, they'd had a change of party in the White House and the new Democrat President wanted to make an example of gun dealers and throw him in jail for more time than we were prepared to accept. In such a case, you'd probably be pissed at the anti-gun Democrats.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:11 pm
 


romanP wrote:
Yeah, except pot isn't very dangerous, and guns are.


How many drug related shootings has Vancouver seen this year? We have grow-opp rips almost every week, many to the wrong houses, and most of those include thugs with guns.

Obviously, their after something because it's worth money.

Emery was on the radio today and sounded like the big braggard he is untill the topic of big jail time in the US. He did this to be a political activist but dosen't have the balls to take the rap. A number of callers compaired him to Ghandi and in all cases, he was found wanting.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:37 pm
 


ridenrain wrote:
How many drug related shootings has Vancouver seen this year? We have grow-opp rips almost every week, many to the wrong houses, and most of those include thugs with guns.


Grow op rip-offs are not the drug usually involved in drug related shootings. It can be argued that BC Bud finances the cocaine trade with the US. They get our pot, we get their coke and guns. Sounds like a crappy trade to me.

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Obviously, their after something because it's worth money.


Pot is worth a lot of money. Supply and demand applies, there is a huge demand, both sides of the border, despite it being illegal, and because it is illegal, supply is covert and due to the risks involved, priced higher. Legally grown recreational pot would drive the prices down dramatically. A recent ruling means there *ought* to be a reduction in price for medical pot, as growers may now grow for more than one patient.


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Emery was on the radio today and sounded like the big braggard he is untill the topic of big jail time in the US. He did this to be a political activist but dosen't have the balls to take the rap. A number of callers compaired him to Ghandi and in all cases, he was found wanting.


Yeah, rather than make his co-accused be extradited to the US for trial and possible lengthy sentences, he offered to plead guilty and surrender himself for prison if the charges against his co-workers were dropped. Clear lack of balls there. Good thing the government stopped him from having to go through with it.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:46 pm
 


The bottom line is that 90% of the pot grown here is for export to the US where it is far more valuable. Any change in the drug laws would sieze up the border and reduce trade to a trickle, crippling our economy.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:17 pm
 


Rather than decriminalize pot, were we to fully legalize it and handle it the same as beer and wine, with all due taxes, that may very well piss off the yanks. But make smuggling easier, I doubt it. Pre-packed joints or bags or whatever unit of sale used would be harder to smuggle, not easier, and for bulk, one would likely need a dedicated farmer outside the of the legally operating system. That would still be illegal, and with the police resources freed up from the illegal trade as is now, busting them would be easier.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:34 pm
 


Alcohol & tobbacco are legal, taxed and their still an underground illegal economy for them. Both are smuggled over the boarder and the profits are a fraction of what's possible with illegal drugs.

Aside from the illegal aliens, compare the US/Mexico border to the US/Canadian border. There is no way that Canada could continue doing business on the current scale under that kind of restrictions.

Face it. almost all of the pot grown here is for export to the US by organized crime. Pretending it's for old grannies glaucoma and cancer patients is a lie.


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