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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:19 pm
 


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It is a pastime of mine to head south to the wind farms on Lake Erie near Port Burwell. I have yet to go and not witness a shithawk reduced to a shower of feathers.

You are so full of shit you put the gulls to shame....


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The location of wind turbines is probably the most important factor in limiting potential avian mortality. Siting decisions need to be preceded by intensive bird studies of the area, whihc is just starting to happen now. Fact is, though, that whatvever form of energy we use will. result in some degradation of the environment in some way.

I think the thing about this oil issue is that it appears as if it was easily avoidable.


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:55 pm
 


Here's the reaction to this, north of the pond. Letters, Edmonton Sun

We are mad as hell at Syncrude. This weekend, our duck-hunting crew of seven was about to make our annual hunt to Wood Buffalo as these birds are real good meat. Normally we get around 100 birds or more. Instead, they are at the bottom of a pond. It's not fair.

Jim Sullivan

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:29 pm
 


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It is a pastime of mine to head south to the wind farms on Lake Erie near Port Burwell. I have yet to go and not witness a shithawk reduced to a shower of feathers.


You are so full of shit you put the gulls to shame....


Yeah well I have reservations about your intelligence, personal hygene and sexual preferences...........


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:54 pm
 


sasquatch2 wrote:
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sasquatch2 wrote:
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It is a pastime of mine to head south to the wind farms on Lake Erie near Port Burwell. I have yet to go and not witness a shithawk reduced to a shower of feathers.


You are so full of shit you put the gulls to shame....


Yeah well I have reservations about your intelligence, personal hygene and sexual preferences...........

Not as strong as my reservations about your honesty and integrity...............

And how the hell did you screw up my post where I used the quote function correctly.... :roll:

And you have reservations about my intelligence.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:28 pm
 


I'm a duck hunter, and have absolutely no problems shooting and eating ducks.

This incident is very unfortunate, and avoidable. I hope Syncrude has to pay some sort of consequences for this mistake.

With that said, I wish Fort Mac and the oil sands a long and prosperous future. We need them.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:55 am
 


Dead ducks a boon for oil-sands opponents
UNNATI GANDHI

opponents......http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... onal/home..





PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:11 am
 


Zipperfish wrote:
The location of wind turbines is probably the most important factor in limiting potential avian mortality. Siting decisions need to be preceded by intensive bird studies of the area, whihc is just starting to happen now. Fact is, though, that whatvever form of energy we use will. result in some degradation of the environment in some way.

I think the thing about this oil issue is that it appears as if it was easily avoidable.


sorry Zip but the turbines dont kill as many birds as cats or cars,not even close.

The reason the mortality rate was so high years ago was because the birds would nest on them,they build them now so its impossible for a bird to build a nest.I'm not going to go look for the studies again but you can search Cowley ridge wind farms if you want real facts and not made up stats from environmentalists.
We got hundreds of turbines here and one of Alberta's most vocal enviro groups allways watching.They dont kill birds,cats and cars do.





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kenmore wrote:
Dead ducks a boon for oil-sands opponents
UNNATI GANDHI

opponents......http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... onal/home..
Oil sands opponents or just another reason to slam the province everyone loves to hate?

Why no hoopla about all the birds that get sucked into jet engines? probably more die in a day this way then all the birds at syncrude put together.

what about 2 way radio ariels? Many a time I have found a decapitated eagle head in the back of my truck.

8 robins have commited suicide by slamming into my windows last week.
Funny I didnt make the news.





PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:35 am
 


The tips on the blades of the big turbines are doing over 70 mph when in motion,the longer the blade,the greater the speed at the tips,what used to kill the birds was the design of the housing on the generator.It was the perfect spot for nesting on a prarie where there is no trees.Eagles and hawks were getting killed when learning to fly.They now have very smooth housings where it's impossible to build a nest.
I know the two guys who came here from Palm Springs and started Alberta's first wind farm,they have heard it all in their 35 years buiding them.

Alberta has a farmer from Pincher Creek to thank for taking on transalta and getting them to pay a fair rate for his excess power created by his tiny windmill.
That opened the floodgates for wind energy and stopped transalta's monopoly on power distribution.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:56 am
 


ziggy wrote:
Zipperfish wrote:
The location of wind turbines is probably the most important factor in limiting potential avian mortality. Siting decisions need to be preceded by intensive bird studies of the area, whihc is just starting to happen now. Fact is, though, that whatvever form of energy we use will. result in some degradation of the environment in some way.

I think the thing about this oil issue is that it appears as if it was easily avoidable.


sorry Zip but the turbines dont kill as many birds as cats or cars,not even close.

The reason the mortality rate was so high years ago was because the birds would nest on them,they build them now so its impossible for a bird to build a nest.I'm not going to go look for the studies again but you can search Cowley ridge wind farms if you want real facts and not made up stats from environmentalists.
We got hundreds of turbines here and one of Alberta's most vocal enviro groups allways watching.They dont kill birds,cats and cars do.

You need to lay the smackdown on your boy Ed Stelmach...


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:09 am
 


It's probably a good thing most of these people here don't know squat about how a lot of farmers now a days get their crops to ripen quickly. I know I cringed the first time I saw it happening, it just didn't seem right to me, but now I just chalk it up to progress. Enjoy your morning cereals. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:17 am
 


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It's probably a good thing most of these people here don't know squat about how a lot of farmers now a days get their crops to ripen quickly. I know I cringed the first time I saw it happening, it just didn't seem right to me, but now I just chalk it up to progress. Enjoy your morning cereals. :lol:

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I guess that would be me unless you are talking about spreading manure on the fields.

Yes, your food is grown in liquid shit.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:22 am
 


ziggy wrote:
sorry Zip but the turbines dont kill as many birds as cats or cars,not even close.
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I didn't say they did. I just said that siting was the key, in my opinion, to reducing mortality.



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The reason the mortality rate was so high years ago was because the birds would nest on them,they build them now so its impossible for a bird to build a nest.I'm not going to go look for the studies again but you can search Cowley ridge wind farms if you want real facts and not made up stats from environmentalists.
We got hundreds of turbines here and one of Alberta's most vocal enviro groups allways watching.They dont kill birds,cats and cars do.


If you build them in a popular bird corridor, the birds do not seem to adapt. At least that's what teh studies show. I know the real stats, I know the scientists conducting the research.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:27 am
 


Ripcat wrote:
Alta_redneck wrote:
It's probably a good thing most of these people here don't know squat about how a lot of farmers now a days get their crops to ripen quickly. I know I cringed the first time I saw it happening, it just didn't seem right to me, but now I just chalk it up to progress. Enjoy your morning cereals. :lol:

:?:
I guess that would be me unless you are talking about spreading manure on the fields.

Yes, your food is grown in liquid shit.


Yep that to. :wink:

I would tell you what it is they do, but the hysteria train is going to fast at the moment. Not to worry tho, the scientists say it's ok for human consumption once the grains have been processed. But when I see 1000’s of ducks eating it right out of the swaths, I always wonder what it does to them.


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