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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:58 pm
 


Title: Number of new U.S. troops in Afghanistan could more than double
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Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2008-10-29 08:59:09
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:58 pm
 


That's right, Yanks: Start carrying your weight in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:59 pm
 


Streaker wrote:
That's right, Yanks: Start carrying your weight in Afghanistan.

You better cup your hands around your mouth I don't think they heard you.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:02 pm
 


Streaker wrote:
That's right, Yanks: Start carrying your weight in Afghanistan.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:07 pm
 


Eisensapper wrote:
Streaker wrote:
That's right, Yanks: Start carrying your weight in Afghanistan.

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Wouldn't you prefer if they beefed up their presence in A-stan?

Or do you prefer instead to be their chump?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:09 pm
 


Streaker we have been telling you for at least a month the US is doing more then their part... it's late I just dont have the will or the energy to go into this right now.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:13 pm
 


* US - 32,500 (17,790 - ISAF)
* UK - 8,380
* Germany - 3,220
* France 2,660
* Canada - 2,500
* Italy - 2,350
* Netherlands - 1,770
* Poland - 1,130
* Australia - 1,080
* Spain - 780
* Denmark - 750
* Romania - 730
* Turkey - 725

These are the troop numbers taken from wikipedia, seems like they're doing their share.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:16 pm
 


Eisensapper wrote:
Streaker we have been telling you for at least a month the US is doing more then their part... it's late I just dont have the will or the energy to go into this right now.


Sorry, man, but I can't be cool with their lackadaisical effort in Afghanistan when they've gone to so much trouble to trash Iraq.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:36 pm
 


RUEZ wrote:
* US - 32,500 (17,790 - ISAF)
* UK - 8,380
* Germany - 3,220
* France 2,660
* Canada - 2,500
* Italy - 2,350
* Netherlands - 1,770
* Poland - 1,130
* Australia - 1,080
* Spain - 780
* Denmark - 750
* Romania - 730
* Turkey - 725

These are the troop numbers taken from wikipedia, seems like they're doing their share.



Isn't that sobering...

Germany, France, Italy.. All have equal ammounts of troops but they won't pull their weight because their governments are too weak. Why send the troops in the first place if their not willing to fight. Must be shitty service, seeing the fighting going on by other NATO troops while they have to stay back and guard dirt that no one wants.
Seeing those numbers and seeing the costs Canada has suffered makes me think that Europe's not worth NATO.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:23 am
 


Canadian troops always get the tough assignments. Likely always will.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:28 am
 


It was one thing when we were proving ourselves for queen and country but we have nothing to prove to anyone now.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:40 am
 


We're not proving anything. We show up and do our duty. Every time. End o' story.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:12 am
 


An oldie but a goody. from the UK Sunday Telegraph, March 5, 2007

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Until the deaths recently of four Canadian soldiers accidentally killed by a U.S. warplane in Afghanistan, probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware that Canadian troops were deployed in the region. And as always, Canada will now bury its dead, just as the rest of the world, as always, will forget its sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does. It seems that Canada's historic mission is to come to the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then, once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored.

That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North American continent with the United States, and for being a selfless friend of Britain in two global conflicts. For much of the 20th century, Canada was torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully got the gratitude it deserved.

Yet its purely voluntary contribution to the cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any democracy. Almost 10% of Canada's entire population of seven million people served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly 60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire British order of battle.

Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by downright neglect, its unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the popular Memory as somehow or other the work of the "British". The Second World War provided a re-run. The Canadian
navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack.

More than 120 Canadian warships participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone. Canada finished the war with the third-largest navy and the fourth-largest air force in the world.

The world thanked Canada with the same sublime indifference as it had the previous time. Canadian participation in the war was acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a part in a campaign in which the United States had clearly not participated - a touching scrupulousness, which, of course, Hollywood has since abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality - unless, that is, they are Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg, Alex Trebek, Art Linkletter and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular perception become American and Christopher Plummer, British. It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to the achievements of its sons and daughters as the rest of the world is completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say of themselves - and are unheard by anyone else - that 1% of the world's population has provided 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces.

Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth - in 39 missions on UN mandates, and six on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia. Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the popular on-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in Somalia, in which out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their regiment was then disbanded in disgrace - a uniquely Canadian act of self- basement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international credit.

So who today in the United States knows about the stoic and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in Afghanistan? Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac, Canada repeatedly does honourable things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it remains something of a figure of fun.

It is the Canadian way, for which Canadians should be proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost. This week, four more grieving Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well. Please pass this on or print it and give it to any of your friends or relatives who served in the Canadian Forces, it is a wonderful tribute to those who choose to serve their country and the world in our quiet Canadian way.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:41 am
 


ridenrain wrote:
Seeing those numbers and seeing the costs Canada has suffered makes me think that Europe's not worth NATO.


That is arguably the dumbest thing you have ever said.

What, do you want to bury your head in the sand and play isolationist? Remember how well that worked 60 odd years ago? NATO is still relevant and important, even more so given Putin's aggressiveness of late.


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