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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:13 pm
 


Title: Are consumers to blame for Detroit Three's problems?
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Posted By: mtbr
Date: 2009-02-21 12:09:45
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:13 pm
 


In a 'free' market, how can consumers be blamed for anything?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:17 pm
 


haha, THAT is stupid.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:22 pm
 


Of course 'we' are responsible for the problem! Like me, most won't spend $50-$60 grand on a pick-up truck. Instead, we opt to look after, and maintain the vehicles we have and 'squeeze every mile out of them' that we can. If everyone would only put their selfishness aside and and go out today and purchase one of these overpriced POS, then the 'Big Three' wouldn't need loans or have to make ridiculous cutbacks like getting rid of corporate jets and giving up multi-million dollar bonuses and the 'workers' could all continue to collect $70.00 per hr!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:35 pm
 


The Customer is always right. The Big 3 have been losing Marketshare for decades, probably because the Consumer was Demanding something the Big 3 were not Supplying?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:00 pm
 


Yogi wrote:
Of course 'we' are responsible for the problem! Like me, most won't spend $50-$60 grand on a pick-up truck. Instead, we opt to look after, and maintain the vehicles we have and 'squeeze every mile out of them' that we can. If everyone would only put their selfishness aside and and go out today and purchase one of these overpriced POS, then the 'Big Three' wouldn't need loans or have to make ridiculous cutbacks like getting rid of corporate jets and giving up multi-million dollar bonuses and the 'workers' could all continue to collect $70.00 per hr!

Ummm, people did, so the Big 3 increased capacity but then people stopped and the Big 3 had nothing to fall back on.....


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:08 pm
 


Consumers are only to blame in that they've supported these shitty companies for too long. Had consumers demanded better quality, safer and more environmentally friendly vehicles 30 years ago, this may have been a competitive industry. Consumers are to blame for their passive loyalty to domestic shitboxes.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:15 pm
 


Axeman wrote:
Consumers are only to blame in that they've supported these shitty companies for too long. Had consumers demanded better quality, safer and more environmentally friendly vehicles 30 years ago, this may have been a competitive industry. Consumers are to blame for their passive loyalty to domestic shitboxes.

Yes because Toyota didn't build plants in NA in the past 30 years to build full size pickup trucks that aren't selling today either...sarcasm off





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Can you imagine what kind of shit they would be selling if the Japanese hadn't arrived :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:43 pm
 


Gremlins are kinda cool. Don't know much about the Mechanicals or the Fuel Consumption, but the styling was quite good, especially from a North American auto maker.

The movie Top Secret covered the main problem with the Pinto quite well. When I was 8 or 9 my dad bought a Maverick, which seemed ok....until a Deer ran into us one eventful night. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:55 pm
 


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Yes because Toyota didn't build plants in NA in the past 30 years to build full size pickup trucks that aren't selling today either...sarcasm off


I was thinking more of alternative vehicles (electic, hybrid, gasoline, whatever) made by companies that we haven't heard of, whether North American or foreign. The lack of competition in the industry, as a whole, has led significantly to its current state.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:59 pm
 


I wonder what will happen with the Volt if GM goes bankrupt.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:04 pm
 


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I wonder what will happen with the Volt if GM goes bankrupt.


If I had to wager, I'd say some other company will step up and make a similar but superior product.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:12 pm
 


why is it that i have to save my money for a "rainy day", yet all these corporations can give all their short-term profits to shareholders, leaving only my tax dollars to fall back on when times are hard?

let them die, all of them. learn to save like the rest of us.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:12 pm
 


If you ask me, I think the problem with GM/ Chrylser....especially chrysler is that their cars are ugly....can anyone honestly see themselves in a PT Cruiser, or even shelling out the dough to fill up a challenger/ avanger....damn these guys are stuck in the nostalgia of the 70's....Ford isnt doing great but they are certainly doing better than the other two, their cars are by far superior, and handle a lot better.


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