[BartSimpson]

No, the better idea is to tell the retired people that they can't suck off the younger workers anymore. That means telling people who are working right now to stop buying crap at WalMart, stop buying a new car every year or so, give up the McMansion and SAVE your money because you will not be able to demand the government take money from young people and give it to you because YOU failed to plan for your retirement.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

No, the better idea is to tell the retired people that they can't suck off the younger workers anymore. That means telling people who are working right now to stop buying crap at WalMart, stop buying a new car every year or so, give up the McMansion and SAVE your money because you will not be able to demand the government take money from young people and give it to you because YOU failed to plan for your retirement.

Good luck with that - do you know what that would do to the American economy?

[Dragom]

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

No, the better idea is to tell the retired people that they can't suck off the younger workers anymore. That means telling people who are working right now to stop buying crap at WalMart, stop buying a new car every year or so, give up the McMansion and SAVE your money because you will not be able to demand the government take money from young people and give it to you because YOU failed to plan for your retirement.

Good luck with that - do you know what that would do to the American economy?

Spawn 100 million get rich quick schemes and new businesses as all the baby boomers are forced to run over each others backs in effort to avoid dying in and of horrific squalor?

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

No, the better idea is to tell the retired people that they can't suck off the younger workers anymore. That means telling people who are working right now to stop buying crap at WalMart, stop buying a new car every year or so, give up the McMansion and SAVE your money because you will not be able to demand the government take money from young people and give it to you because YOU failed to plan for your retirement.

Good luck with that - do you know what that would do to the American economy?

Yes, it would help get us off the credit addiction. Cutting up America's credit cards is like cutting off crack to an addict, yeah it'll hurt, but in the long run it's the right thing to do.

Unless, of course, you're a banker.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

No, the better idea is to tell the retired people that they can't suck off the younger workers anymore. That means telling people who are working right now to stop buying crap at WalMart, stop buying a new car every year or so, give up the McMansion and SAVE your money because you will not be able to demand the government take money from young people and give it to you because YOU failed to plan for your retirement.

Good luck with that - do you know what that would do to the American economy?

Yes, it would help get us off the credit addiction. Cutting up America's credit cards is like cutting off crack to an addict, yeah it'll hurt, but in the long run it's the right thing to do.

Unless, of course, you're a banker.

d-e-p-r-e-s-s-i-o-n - just a little bit, baby come on.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

d-e-p-r-e-s-s-i-o-n - just a little bit, baby come on.

A depression coupled with runaway inflation would be the right trick to fixing a lot of problems in the USA.

Illegal aliens would go home.

Welfare would end and that would put a good 40 million people into the workforce.

Big government would wither along with their budgets.

Yep, it would not be fun, but the result would be a leaner and freer America.

[andyt]

40 million people into a workforce that has no jobs? No, that wouldn't be fun. My guess is even is Sarah were president, she would find it impossible to not have to ramp up welfare to keep things reasonably quiet.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

40 million people into a workforce that has no jobs? No, that wouldn't be fun. My guess is even is Sarah were president, she would find it impossible to not have to ramp up welfare to keep things reasonably quiet.

If the legal and illegal alines go home then there will be a good 20-30 million jobs opened up for those 40 million people on welfare. That leaves around 10 million who will need to figure it out.

Ramping up welfare to calm the masses only goes so far. The Romans did it with bread and circuses and where are they now?

At some point that idiotic game of taking money from those who earn it and giving it to those who don't will fail. We can choose the time for this or the time will choose us, but the inevitability of failure is certain.

[DrCaleb]

C'mon people! Plankton. Ocean. Dead.

Focus!!

[bootlegga]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

C'mon people! Plankton. Ocean. Dead.

Focus!!

Nah, why should anyone care about the biosphere when they can debate economic policies instead?

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

C'mon people! Plankton. Ocean. Dead.

Focus!!

Nah, why should anyone care about the biosphere when they can debate economic policies instead?

Well, when the fishies that eat the plankton starve, and the fishies that we eat that eat them starve . . .that will definitely affect economic policy.

For decades industry has been offloading it's costs on to the environment, and now we get the special present maw nature has been saving for us as payment in kind.

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

C'mon people! Plankton. Ocean. Dead.

Focus!!

Ha ha ha ha ha.

I mean ... ummm ... focussing. Plankton. right.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

C'mon people! Plankton. Ocean. Dead.

Focus!!

We're focused. Max Planck is dead. Got it.

[Bruce_the_vii]

The temperature went up 1 degree or something and this has supposed to radically affect the stratification of the ocean waters. The ocean waters are about 80 degree in the tropics and about 1000 feet below they are 40 degree. And this was completely altered by raising the temperature to 81%. This is hot science, eh.

[Zipperfish]

Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:

The temperature went up 1 degree or something and this has supposed to radically affect the stratification of the ocean waters. The ocean waters are about 80 degree in the tropics and about 1000 feet below they are 40 degree. And this was completely altered by raising the temperature to 81%. This is hot science, eh.

I know. Somew guy told me once that if you lower the temperature of water from 1 deg to -1 deg it turns to ice. Like over a change of a couple of degrees, it's going to completly change it's molecular bonding. I'm like, "Yeah right, dude. What are you--a communist?"