91 years to this day the Soviet Revolution started, when the Bolshevik army began storming the Czarist & Previsional government buildings. On October 25th, the Bolshevik forces entered the Winter Palace, virtually unopposed. Lenin declared the new communist government on 8 November 1917, the Previsional Government was gone & the Soviet Union put in its place.
It stood untill on On December 25, 1991 Gorbachev yielded to the inevitable and resigned as the president of the USSR, declaring the office extinct. The following day, the Supreme Soviet, the highest governmental body of the Soviet Union, recognized the bankruptcy and collapse of the Soviet Union and dissolved itself.
This is generally recognized as the official, final dissolution of the Soviet Union as a functioning state. Many organizations such as the Soviet Army and police forces continued to remain in place in the early months of 1992 but were slowly phased out and either withdrawn from or absorbed by the newly independent states.
roger-roger
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:58 am
Is it just more or does Layton look a little like Lenin in some of those pictures?
herbie
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:07 am
Your point being...????
Blue_Nose
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:09 am
We've got Godwin's Law, but is there a corollary for inevitable comparisons to Communists?
DerbyX
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:13 am
Daniels law?
roger-roger
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:15 am
Blue_Nose wrote:
We've got Godwin's Law, but is there a corollary for inevitable comparisons to Communists?
Hmm I never really thought of things this way.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:16 am
I didnt think Lenin was all that bad really, Stain was the real asshat of Russian Socialism.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:25 pm
democracy is so precious , if we lose that we could become communist or any other kind of dictatorship.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:35 pm
herbie wrote:
Your point being...????
He doesn't need a point. Conservatives are dumb animals, they don't know there is a difference between socialism and communism..
They just think anything different is either a commie or a terrorist.. At least that is what George W. Bush told them.
The politics of fear.
Just for the record, countries such as Russia, China, Cuba that are labelled communist are not really communist at all. True communist is total equality, and all of those countries have some form of economic disparity.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:57 pm
Wasnt the start of the communist revolution supposed to be the begining of a Socialist Utopia, at least thats what Lenin said.
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:roll: Wasnt the start of the communist revolution supposed to be the begining of a Socialist Utopia, at least thats what Lenin said.
Wasn't American the land of the American Dream?
Humanity has been trying since before recorded history began to make the perfect society.
Every religion, every cult, every political philosphy thinks theirs can be that way.
Stalin pursued his at the cost of millions killed during the purges.
We pursued ours across NA at the cost of the displacement, domination, annihilation, and degradation of every previous tribal inhabitant.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:07 pm
Eisensapper wrote:
:roll: Wasnt the start of the communist revolution supposed to be the begining of a Socialist Utopia, at least thats what Lenin said.
Socialist utopia refers to businesses being state run, communism refers is the political system.
Communism, however, seeks to manage both the economy and the society by ensuring that property is owned collectively and that control over the distribution of property is centralized in order to achieve both classlessness and statelessness.
Since about 1935 Sweden has had a social democratic economy (socialism), with high, redistributive income tax and general welfare benefits (even when under conservative governments). What's more it's one of the most prosperous countries in Europe.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:50 pm
Blue_Nose wrote:
We've got Godwin's Law, but is there a corollary for inevitable comparisons to Communists?
Anti-Greenspan speak.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:14 pm
ridenrain
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:21 pm
Love the music. Thanks for posting that. (..now where did I put that submarine.. )
You'll find the exact same style of pantings celebrating the great leap foreward in China but none of the works of art show the 20-30 odd million who starved to death. These communist (for lack of a better word) states are so good at re-writing their own history.