well harper couldnt make a gaff he doesnt know or do shit.. the tories are a huge fuck up.. as joe clarke says he is doing a good job of doing nothing and has no agenda or direction and getting away with it...
"commanderkai" said Its a small slip up, mixed in with optimism. Accidents happen you guys. Sheesh.
I know Obama had a Pakistan quote, but Dion did too?
Intervention in Pakistan key to Afghan success, Dion says
Marianne White, Canwest News Service Published: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
QUEBEC -- Any attempt to counter terrorists war-torn Afghanistan will not succeed without an intervention in neighbouring Pakistan, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion said Wednesday.
Mr. Dion hinted NATO could take action in Pakistan, which has a porous border with Afghanistan, if the Pakistani government doesn't move to track terrorists.
"We are going to have to discuss that very actively if they (the Pakistanis) are not able to deal with it on their own. We could consider that option with the NATO forces in order to help Pakistan help us pacify Afghanistan," said Mr. Dion in Quebec City, commenting after his two-day trip to Afghanistan last weekend. "As long as we don't solve the problem in Pakistan, I don't see how we can solve it in Afghanistan."
The Liberal leader explained that Afghan officials told him they know where the extremist strongholds are in Pakistan. But he said the Afghans don't take action.
"One day, we are going to have to act because our soldiers are cleaning out some areas, but in fact very often they are only clean in principle. The insurgents go take refuge in Pakistan and they are going to come back (to Afghanistan) at the earliest opportunity. This could last very long if we don't tackle the problems that often originate from Pakistan," Mr. Dion said.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay told Canwest News Service Dion's comments were off base.
"Mr. Dion can't be serious to suggest NATO "intervene," in another country while simultaneously saying Canada should abandon its United Nations-mandated NATO mission in Afghanistan," he said in an e-mail.
"He has to explain to Canadians why he wants an "intervention" but wants to turn his back on Afghanistan, which has asked and continues to ask for Canada's help. It's inane."
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf acknowledged last August that Islamic extremists are operating in tribal areas on his nation's side of the border with Afghanistan and providing support to insurgents fighting U.S. and NATO troops.
Mr. Musharraf and his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai have been urged by the U.S. and other allied countries to work together to counter the extremists' presence in the tribal belt that straddles their 2,400-kilometre border.
But Mr. Dion said that more pressure has to be put on the Pakistani government for immediate action.
Although Mr. Karzai rejected the Liberal position that Canada should end its combat mission in southern Afghanistan by February 2009, Mr. Dion reiterated his party wants a halt to the 2,500-soldier combat mission in Kandahar as scheduled.
But he said he wants some troops to remain in Afghanistan to play a different role, for instance in training police, civilian protection and reconstruction in safer zones.
"We saw how much Canada is needed for development and security purposes and we should focus on that," stressed Mr. Dion, who added he was "impressed" by the job done by the Canadian Forces.
"We were proud to be Canadians when we were in Afghanistan," he said.
But nonetheless, Mr. Dion thinks that Canada's "enormous" involvement in the combat must come to an end.
"For the mission to succeed, NATO must apply the principle of rotation. When a country is in the most difficult combat mission during three years, there must be a time for rotation," he said.
The House of Commons will have to vote on whether to extend the mission, following recommendations brought forth by the panel headed by former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley.
Follow the trail of puffin shit to the previous thread about this and you'lll find a world class Liberal whitewash job.
"ridenrain" said Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
"kenmore" said well harper couldnt make a gaff he doesnt know or do shit.. the tories are a huge fuck up.. as joe clarke says he is doing a good job of doing nothing and has no agenda or direction and getting away with it...
"DerbyX" said Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe. No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
"ridenrain" said Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe. No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
I heard Harper's kid took a couple of penalties in his last pee-wee hockey game and yapped at the ref for being an asshole about it. This is obviously another reason to call for another official RCMP inquiry.
Somewhere, Dion is struggling to learn what a hockey player wears so he can show up on telivision to say they never did that when he played grass hockey...
"RUEZ" said It's funny what the loony left considers a scandal. Loony is a fitting word for them.
Whats even worse is you right wing fanatics simply call everything left/Liberal a scandal while dismissing exactly the same thing when your party does it.
"ridenrain" said Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe. No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
Yet it was you who responded with the first post not by answering the topic at hand but by simply deflecting to the Liberals.
For someone who tried in vain to dismiss the serious security breach as nothing more then a made up ploy by the media/Liberals you have less then zero credibility on anything political.
Oh.. sorry that was that other guy.
Ridenhack answering yet another con scandal by deflecting blame to the Liberals.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
I know Obama had a Pakistan quote, but Dion did too?
as joe clarke says he is doing a good job of doing nothing and has no agenda or direction and getting away with it...
Its a small slip up, mixed in with optimism. Accidents happen you guys. Sheesh.
I know Obama had a Pakistan quote, but Dion did too?
Marianne White, Canwest News Service Published: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
QUEBEC -- Any attempt to counter terrorists war-torn Afghanistan will not succeed without an intervention in neighbouring Pakistan, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion said Wednesday.
Mr. Dion hinted NATO could take action in Pakistan, which has a porous border with Afghanistan, if the Pakistani government doesn't move to track terrorists.
"We are going to have to discuss that very actively if they (the Pakistanis) are not able to deal with it on their own. We could consider that option with the NATO forces in order to help Pakistan help us pacify Afghanistan," said Mr. Dion in Quebec City, commenting after his two-day trip to Afghanistan last weekend. "As long as we don't solve the problem in Pakistan, I don't see how we can solve it in Afghanistan."
The Liberal leader explained that Afghan officials told him they know where the extremist strongholds are in Pakistan. But he said the Afghans don't take action.
"One day, we are going to have to act because our soldiers are cleaning out some areas, but in fact very often they are only clean in principle. The insurgents go take refuge in Pakistan and they are going to come back (to Afghanistan) at the earliest opportunity. This could last very long if we don't tackle the problems that often originate from Pakistan," Mr. Dion said.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay told Canwest News Service Dion's comments were off base.
"Mr. Dion can't be serious to suggest NATO "intervene," in another country while simultaneously saying Canada should abandon its United Nations-mandated NATO mission in Afghanistan," he said in an e-mail.
"He has to explain to Canadians why he wants an "intervention" but wants to turn his back on Afghanistan, which has asked and continues to ask for Canada's help. It's inane."
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf acknowledged last August that Islamic extremists are operating in tribal areas on his nation's side of the border with Afghanistan and providing support to insurgents fighting U.S. and NATO troops.
Mr. Musharraf and his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai have been urged by the U.S. and other allied countries to work together to counter the extremists' presence in the tribal belt that straddles their 2,400-kilometre border.
But Mr. Dion said that more pressure has to be put on the Pakistani government for immediate action.
Although Mr. Karzai rejected the Liberal position that Canada should end its combat mission in southern Afghanistan by February 2009, Mr. Dion reiterated his party wants a halt to the 2,500-soldier combat mission in Kandahar as scheduled.
But he said he wants some troops to remain in Afghanistan to play a different role, for instance in training police, civilian protection and reconstruction in safer zones.
"We saw how much Canada is needed for development and security purposes and we should focus on that," stressed Mr. Dion, who added he was "impressed" by the job done by the Canadian Forces.
"We were proud to be Canadians when we were in Afghanistan," he said.
But nonetheless, Mr. Dion thinks that Canada's "enormous" involvement in the combat must come to an end.
"For the mission to succeed, NATO must apply the principle of rotation. When a country is in the most difficult combat mission during three years, there must be a time for rotation," he said.
The House of Commons will have to vote on whether to extend the mission, following recommendations brought forth by the panel headed by former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley.
Follow the trail of puffin shit to the previous thread about this and you'lll find a world class Liberal whitewash job.
Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
well harper couldnt make a gaff he doesnt know or do shit.. the tories are a huge fuck up..
as joe clarke says he is doing a good job of doing nothing and has no agenda or direction and getting away with it...
The Liberal is still quoting another Liberal.
Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe.
No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe.
No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
I heard Harper's kid took a couple of penalties in his last pee-wee hockey game and yapped at the ref for being an asshole about it. This is obviously another reason to call for another official RCMP inquiry.
It's funny what the loony left considers a scandal. Loony is a fitting word for them.
Whats even worse is you right wing fanatics simply call everything left/Liberal a scandal while dismissing exactly the same thing when your party does it.
Hmm. Demo-Derby desperate to keep the shovels of shit flying, hoping that some sticks.
Tell me when this hits the Italian news, like Dion's stupid comments did in Pakistan.
You just don't get it do you hack boy?
All you ever do when answering scandals by the cons is simply try and turn it around on the Liberals.
You did it over the Bernier affair on each and every scandal when you tried to thrust attention back on the Liberals.
You have done that hear except hear you are just plain spinning Dions words in an attempt to put the argument and heat off of an obvious CPC misstatement.
You are a dishonest person who uses dishonest tactics in order to support your dishonest party.
If you were honest and accepted you're partys mistakes, you'd have credability and wouldn't come off sounding like a party mouthpiece.
Has this hit the Italian papers yet? Nothing on BBC Europe.
No where as big a splash as Dion's attack on Pakistan, our NATO partner.
What's next for you guys.. spelling mistakes in the PMO or late library books from Harper's kids?
Yet it was you who responded with the first post not by answering the topic at hand but by simply deflecting to the Liberals.
For someone who tried in vain to dismiss the serious security breach as nothing more then a made up ploy by the media/Liberals you have less then zero credibility on anything political.