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Utility bills non-debtors to recover money owed

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Utility bills non-debtors to recover money owed by other debtors.


Business | 207807 hits | Aug 28 10:07 am | Posted by: DerbyX
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Local residents are again speaking out about a practice used by GEUS, the local electric utility system, to collect on delinquent payments.

Comments

  1. by avatar Dragom
    Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:31 pm
    Making people pay their family debts?

  2. by avatar Brenda
    Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:39 pm
    How in the world can a company bill you for utilities your ex-partner, that you divorced 8 years ago, used, and get away with it???

    The companies here are the complete opposite btw. :lol:

  3. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:14 am
    For christs sake don't let BC Hydro hear about this or we're all in trouble.

  4. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:23 am
    "Brenda" said
    How in the world can a company bill you for utilities your ex-partner, that you divorced 8 years ago, used, and get away with it???

    The companies here are the complete opposite btw. :lol:


    My guess would be that this sleeze bag utility company figured people wouldn't want to be bother going to court over a couple of hundred dollars and would pay it just to get them off their back.

    I hope you're being sarcastic about our companies being the complete opposite. In case you hadn't noticed when you get you cable or phone bill you're paying for the "next" month and not the past month. So basically you're paying for goods and services that you haven't recieved.

    Nice trick isn't it. Not all that much different from billing relatives and friends small ammounts of owed money to get your money back from debtors.

  5. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:34 am
    Here in Taiwan, because of their archaic third world legal system... debt can be legally passed on to your children and grandchildren. However, the laws regarding inherited debt are being changed after a case was brought to the attention of the public.
    http://www.taiwan-panorama.com/en/show_ ... wan&h2=Law

    A three-month-old infant in Chiayi surnamed Zhao was, while still in his mother's womb, the cross-generational heir to an NT$20,000-plus tax debt of his grandfather, achieving the dubious honor of being the youngest debtor in Taiwan.


    The deceased was the father of Mrs. Zhao, Baby Zhao's mom. Her parents had been divorced for over 20 years. When the old man died in February of 2007, Mrs. Zhao's sisters, fearing they would inherit their father's debts, hurriedly waived their right to inherit, and Mrs. Zhao also wavied inhertance rights on behalf of herself and her five-year-old son. Her second son was still in the womb at that time, and did not have a name, much less an ID card, and the Zhaos were told that they could take the necessary measures to waive this child's right to inheritance after he was born. But when they went to the Hsinchu District Court to take care of the matter, the judge ruled that a waiver should have been filed within two months of the family's becoming aware of the inheritance, and the Zhao family, having missed this deadline by 20 or so days, had their request rejected, leaving Baby Zhao holding the debt.


    Amounts here can range into the 10s of millions of $NTD(NTD$ 31=CAD$ 1).

  6. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:36 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    How in the world can a company bill you for utilities your ex-partner, that you divorced 8 years ago, used, and get away with it???

    The companies here are the complete opposite btw. :lol:


    My guess would be that this sleeze bag utility company figured people wouldn't want to be bother going to court over a couple of hundred dollars and would pay it just to get them off their back.

    I hope you're being sarcastic about our companies being the complete opposite. In case you hadn't noticed when you get you cable or phone bill you're paying for the "next" month and not the past month. So basically you're paying for goods and services that you haven't recieved.

    Nice trick isn't it. Not all that much different from billing relatives and friends small ammounts of owed money to get your money back from debtors.
    I know that, BUT, because it's in my name, no one else is responsible but me, no matter how many adults live on the same address and carry the same last name.

  7. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:54 am
    "Brenda" said
    I know that, BUT, because it's in my name, no one else is responsible but me, no matter how many adults live on the same address and carry the same last name.



    So far.

    But, the bad news is that you're technically wrong for the simple fact that everytime someone defaults on a bill, our companies go after everyone, your relatives and friends included.

    How do you think the banks cover their losses from bad debt. They certainly don't go after the countries, businesses or people that defaulted. Nope it's alot easier to spread it out so everyone can feel the pain.

    So really GEUS is conducting business the same as our companies and banks only limiting the amount of pain they're dispensing by going after certain individuals rather than everyone.

  8. by avatar herbie
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:59 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    How in the world can a company bill you for utilities your ex-partner, that you divorced 8 years ago, used, and get away with it???

    The companies here are the complete opposite btw. :lol:


    My guess would be that this sleeze bag utility company figured people wouldn't want to be bother going to court over a couple of hundred dollars and would pay it just to get them off their back.

    I hope you're being sarcastic about our companies being the complete opposite. In case you hadn't noticed when you get you cable or phone bill you're paying for the "next" month and not the past month. So basically you're paying for goods and services that you haven't recieved.

    Nice trick isn't it. Not all that much different from billing relatives and friends small ammounts of owed money to get your money back from debtors.

    Unfortunately, even my little Internet company bills you for next month's service. Otherwise more than 20% won't pay for services they used. 1/3 of the rest will give some story ow they 'weren't happy' and shouldn't have to pay the full amount, we on holidays and shouldn't have to pay, etc. etc. etc.
    Count on everyone paying 20-25% more if it did cover actual usage.
    Hell I've had dozens pay a $2 PayPal fee for an hour's access and come in during the workweek bitching they only used 15 minutes and I should give them $1.50 or they'll call the Better Business Bureau.

  9. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:08 am
    "herbie" said
    How in the world can a company bill you for utilities your ex-partner, that you divorced 8 years ago, used, and get away with it???

    The companies here are the complete opposite btw. :lol:


    My guess would be that this sleeze bag utility company figured people wouldn't want to be bother going to court over a couple of hundred dollars and would pay it just to get them off their back.

    I hope you're being sarcastic about our companies being the complete opposite. In case you hadn't noticed when you get you cable or phone bill you're paying for the "next" month and not the past month. So basically you're paying for goods and services that you haven't recieved.

    Nice trick isn't it. Not all that much different from billing relatives and friends small ammounts of owed money to get your money back from debtors.

    Unfortunately, even my little Internet company bills you for next month's service. Otherwise more than 20% won't pay for services they used. 1/3 of the rest will give some story ow they 'weren't happy' and shouldn't have to pay the full amount, we on holidays and shouldn't have to pay, etc. etc. etc.
    Count on everyone paying 20-25% more if it did cover actual usage.
    Hell I've had dozens pay a $2 PayPal fee for an hour's access and come in during the workweek bitching they only used 15 minutes and I should give them $1.50 or they'll call the Better Business Bureau.
    That's ridiculous.
    Cheap bastards.

    I have no problem paying in advance, as long as I will get it back if I move or end their service. Of course they collect interest, but hey, that's how they make their money.

    What I do care about is that apparently, I can be billed for services not even in my name, on a different address, and from a different bank account with a different name, services used by a person I haven't seen in 8 years, and that I never want to see or hear from again. (re:story...)

    While here, if there are changes to be made, I am the only one who can do that, regardless of the amount of people in this household with the same name, using the same bank account and are living at the same address, changes that affects them too.



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