Avro Arrow redesign pitched as alternative to F-35 fighter jets

Military | 808 hits | Sep 09 9:39 pm | Posted by: Canadaka

An update to the storied CF-105 Avro Arrow was put forward as an alternative to the purchase of F-35 stealth fighter jets

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by Canadaka
Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:42 am
video on global http://www.globalnews.ca/feds+reject+bi ... story.html

novel idea but im fairly certain it wouldnt work well for the needs the air force has now. it was a long range intercept for another era. the F35 is crap though, there are better planes sutied for Canada's needs.

Maybe the Liberals should pick this up as an issue, they are always saying they are about 'Big, Bold ideas'.
by BeaverFever
Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:50 am
Sounds pretty far-fetched, I have to say. How about a Canadian moon base and aircraft carrier while we're at it?
by jeff744
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:16 am
One of my friends suggested upgrading the CF-18 design and buying another batch instead. On the note of the Arrow, it could likely be done but the problem would be cost of development and then production, we would need a few places with guaranteed orders to actually even consider it.
by BeaverFever
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:19 am
That would still require a bigger order than just Canada's.
by jeff744
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:21 am
"BeaverFever" said
That would still require a bigger order than just Canada's.

Hence why we would need guaranteed orders, likely pitched to someone like Russia that has a lot of area to cover but only so much cash to do it with.
by BeaverFever
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:31 am
Russia would never buy foreign A/C. They make and use their own. Turkey maybe...
by jeff744
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:45 am
"BeaverFever" said
Russia would never buy foreign A/C. They make and use their own. Turkey maybe...

Even then, we would be lucky, the Arrow is designed for a long gone era, it would take a massive amount of cash to bring that thing to any chance of being able to work out.
by herbie
Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:03 am
A long gone era when Canadians thought they were good enough to build aircraft, rockets, atomic reactors, hydrofoils, etc.
Now stop daydreaming and ship us that raw bitumen, coal, raw logs and water, boy.
by sandorski
Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:22 am
A most intriguing idea.
by jeff744
Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:36 am
"herbie" said
A long gone era when Canadians thought they were good enough to build aircraft, rockets, atomic reactors, hydrofoils, etc.
Now stop daydreaming and ship us that raw bitumen, coal, raw logs and water, boy.

We were good enough to do a lot of it and still are, the problem is that a lot of the drive to actually do it is gone.
by BeaverFever
Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:45 am
The end-to-end cost just for the sake of having a uniquely Canadian-made product would be 100x more than buying one off-the-shelf. And considering that modern aircraft manufacturing involves dozens of multinational corporations from around the world anyway makes the Canadian-ness of the finished product questionable anyway.
by bootlegga
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:01 pm
There nothing stopping Canada from making its own plane - except cost. If Canadian taxpayers are willing to sink $20-30 billion to do so, then let's do it. The problem isn't know-how - it's money. People are upset that the F-35 will cost us as much as $25 billion - which is at least what a brand-new designed from the ground up plane like this would cost us.

"herbie" said
A long gone era when Canadians thought they were good enough to build aircraft, rockets, atomic reactors, hydrofoils, etc.
Now stop daydreaming and ship us that raw bitumen, coal, raw logs and water, boy.

It'd be funny if it wasn't true...
by BartSimpson
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:13 pm
While a rehash of a half-century old design is economically DOA the idea that Canada could produce a competitive fighter is not entirely off base. So long as it is accepted that there will be high development costs going into the effort to build not just a fighter, but the aerospace infrastructure necessary to build it, then in the long run this would be awesome for Canada. Likewise, I firmly support Canada developing a ship building capability again so Canada is not dependent upon other nations for critical defense needs.
by RUEZ
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:39 pm
"herbie" said
A long gone era when Canadians thought they were good enough to build aircraft, rockets, atomic reactors, hydrofoils, etc.
Now stop daydreaming and ship us that raw bitumen, coal, raw logs and water, boy.

There's nothing wrong with using your natural resources to compliment the other industries in your country. You'd be out of business if it weren't for natural resources.