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 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:38 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


The point, which I made very early on, is that the differences are too many to list. Well, despite your refusal to actually make a point, I would now have to agree, corportations do in fact have fundamental differences from traditional businesses. Mostly in how they handle money and ownership and h...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:45 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


I suggest you start with the classics: Frank Knight's "Risk, Uncertainty and Profit (1921) and Ronald Coase's "The Nature of the Firm" (1937). Skimmed through the first few chapters of both and I would say they're both facinating books. "Risk, Uncertainty and Profit" I'll p...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:49 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


You mention the difference in scale as though that were negligible. Since we're talking about the potential for businesses to be ruthless and rapacious, I'd say it's the difference between slightly-more-rough-than-average sex and that prosthetic from Se7en . I mean, yeah, they behave in a mostly si...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:21 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


YOU'RE the one who claimed that a medieval blacksmith was essentially the same thing as Exxon. The onus is on you. I remain unconvinced. Well, the gist of my argument was back here. Businesses back in the days of yonder had to acquire raw materials like wood or iron or animals, businesses today acq...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:50 am 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


Is there anything you would consider a core difference? A point where the 2 fundamentally split from each other? Too many to list. Listen, I appreciate your problem here, but I can't even attempt to refute your argument unless you actually make one. Your tautological "they're different because...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:21 am 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


So, I guess I would have to ask you... what exactly does make the middle-age trade-smith and modern mega corporation so different from each other? That answer would take 500 pages of text. I wouldn't know where to begin. Is there anything you would consider a core difference? A point where the 2 fu...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:23 am 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


Well, I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. You're saying that a forest is the same as a crocodile, more or less, because they both live on Earth, consume water and excrete gasses. Lol, well yes, I suppose so. On a strictly biological level they're doing more or less a lot of the same thi...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:43 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


Business existed in some form or other since as long as human civilization, since the days of traveling merchants and local markets. Sure, the giant corporations that exist today didn't come about until around the Industrial Revolution, but they are more or less the same thing. Huh? You're suggesti...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:09 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


Corporations didn't arise "naturally". Their legal status was created through crooked backroom deals. Bandits lobbied together to legalize their rackets. In my ideal world individuals would still be free to pool their resources and operate partnerships. Business existed in some form or ot...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:04 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


@Narf you talk about freedom. In a society without limits, you would likely soon have no freedom at all, unless you happened to be one of the overlords. Basically that society would look like the gangs we see operating now - the only limits they place on themselves are who has the most power to get...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Ignatieff the foreigner

 Post subject: Re: Ignatieff the foreigner
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:03 pm 

Comments: 117
Views: 1183


Wow, Canada... wow... :roll: Glad to know the US isn't the only country that goes that low. Nice. Glad to know it'll be all right to blame all Americans for the next slight coming from an internet cartoon. :roll: I was talking about the ad, not the cartoon. Perhaps I should have been more clear abo...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Ignatieff the foreigner

 Post subject: Re: Ignatieff the foreigner
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:37 pm 

Comments: 117
Views: 1183


I don't think anti-American rhetoric has much to do with it. Did you not see the same ad I just saw? There was no mention of his career or activism in America... just that he likes America and may go back some day. THAT is the great evil he committed. Sure, there may be a legitimate argument to be ...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Ignatieff the foreigner

 Post subject: Re: Ignatieff the foreigner
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:33 pm 

Comments: 117
Views: 1183


Wow, Canada... wow... :roll: Glad to know the US isn't the only country that goes that low.

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Cloudy vision

 Post subject: Re: Cloudy vision
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:28 pm 

Comments: 259
Views: 1647


I think there are more and more libertarians who want to distance themselves from the Tea-bircher, Randian nonesense that is often attributed to libertarianism. Despite how much they may like to call themselves such, the Teaparty really isn't libertarian at all. They seem to agree with laissez-fair...

 Forum: Filibuster Cartoons   Topic: Ignatieff the foreigner

 Post subject: Re: Ignatieff the foreigner
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:16 pm 

Comments: 117
Views: 1183


Anyone have a YouTube link for that ad? I'm curios to see it.
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